The issue of Daimler pressing its rights to enforce a TRADEMARK, even when the TRADEMARK is expired over 80 years or more is not a moral issue with me NOR was it a moral issue with Daimler. It was a business issue, strictly business issue, which is where I am coming from although Daimler got away with mercedesshop.com in an ILLEGAL manner. You say Daimler should have the rights to protect an EXPIRED trademark, yet, you can not see where losing a WORLD WAR should LIMIT the losers to tell the WINNERS anything and don’t see how that issue of World War II relates to Mr. Wood’s issue. Sure, Germany is a LEGITIMATE state, a state that is OWNED by America and Russia. But, you can’t tell it by how things are now in the world. England and France just happened to be on the winner’s side, but hardly contributed to the outcome of the WAR Victory.

I expected a German to respond to my post. I wondered what took you so long to write your ALL FORGIVING speech that America should handle OUR relations with Germany like any other FRIENDLY. Those who forget their history WILL repeat that history. God might not be on the side of America in the next WORLD WAR. And I don’t see other countries giving away their country to ANYBODY that comes here and call themselves America as the price of admission to be a full blooded American.

Anyway, the trademark issue under which “mercedesshop.com” was OCCUPIED by Daimler is just wrong, simply because a trademark has a limited life of about 20 years or so, which was simply EXPIRED. That is why Coca-Cola, Inc. doesn’t have a trademark or patent on its formula for making their drink. They simply locked up the information in a safe. If they had a patent or trademark, then the information would be public after the patent or trademark expired. Bosch operates similarly. They only have patents on their JUNK stuff. The good stuff is in their vaults.

I’m just disappointed that the American LAWYERS let Mr. Wood be thrown to the wolves by means of the German company, Daimler. Funny you say it is ok to protect a trademark for over 80 years, but FORGET the transgressions of an aggressive nation that lost a WORLD WAR. Sorry, I hold Germany accountable, LEGITIMATELY, in that they lost that war and earned everything they get TAKEN AWAY from them. Unlike Mr. Wood, who built his website based on just HELPING Mercedes OWNERS keep their vehicles properly maintained the AMERICAN WAY, where information is NO big secret when the owners have already bought and PAID FOR their cars; Daimler took his website sighting owning a trademark that Daimler KNEW was bogus grounds to take Mr. Woods website’s name after he had established the site, and even noted that his site was INDEPENDENT of Mercedes Benz. Then on top of that, Daimler presented to the WIPO and made it look like Mr. Wood was a FRANCHISE to Daimler by just using the name of Mercedes in his website name. A FRANCHISE probably has an expiration date, just like trademarks and patents. Mr. Wood never implied in any manner that he was a FRANCHISE of Daimler, which franchises would be the only folks to be harmed like Mr. Woods was by Daimler based over Daimler’s claim to CONTROL that entity.

Moral has nothing to do with what I am saying. If it did, Germany would have a NEW name after losing that WAR if the right folks were making the decisions in 1945. And it would be a crime to even speak German, if this was a MORAL issue after folks I know or WOULD HAVE KNOWN lost their lives fighting in that WAR. And you say forget about that! But let’s enforce that EXPIRED trademark of Daimler against Mr. Wood, all because he used the word MERCEDES, where folks could come get information to keep their cars running. I can say car, can’t I?

BenzDiesel

I wish I knew who made that copyKat Gullwing. That would be the cat's pajamas in carbon fiber and I would buy one is the the price was right. Very cool kit car. Would MB sue me for buying a kit car ? BTW -- how long is the copyright good for ? It's been 59 years.

You're a riot. Do you do weddings and bar mitzvahs?

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I have a hard TIME reading posts that are really LONG and are riddled with WORDS in ALL CAPS but I got THROUGH it.

So I gather that if WW2 never happened then all of this would be ok?

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2007 Ford Expedition EL (54k)

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Just a suggestion...

Wow, speechless...... ....when i read right, you're from Alabama, guess you lost a war too some time ago.... .. do these numbers tell you something : 2013 ?????


BTW, i AM from Germany..... and the rumor is, that Germany is negotiating with the Obama government right now to trade some Brats, Pretzels and a few kegs of beer for Alabama and make a parking lot for Mercedes out of it.....

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about nor do you sound sane on your other talking points . . .

Trademarks FAQs

How long does a trademark registration last?

The registration is valid as long as you timely file all post registration maintenance documents. You must file a “Declaration of Use under Section 8” between the fifth and sixth year following registration.

_____In addition, you must file a combined “Declaration of Use and Application for Renewal under Sections 8 and 9” between the ninth and tenth year after registration, and every 10 years thereafter. _____

If these documents are not timely filed, your registration will be cancelled and cannot be revived or reinstated. For more information see Maintain/Renew a Registration.


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JB3 , Don't take anything that Brian Carlton says seriously, he is having another Mel Gibson moment.

i think the US bans all meat imports from Germany at this time, so we're SOL on the Brats

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Damn, i knew there's a catch.....