WVO might make a comeback.

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'83 SD, 2x '85 SD
You are entitled to your own opinions, you are not entitled to your own facts.

I doubt it due to the effort involved .

Few will continue to do the full job more than a year....

The blush has left the Diesel Power rose .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

Odd at least to me in eastern Canada. Correct for the dollar and both Canadian and American diesel prices are not far apart. I am not sure if this has occurred before.

Last I looked, Propel HPR was 20c cheaper than Shell D2 and about the same price as reg unleaded. It is "renewable diesel" for no net-CO2 emissions, so better for the planet than any battery-car. Union 76 also sells renewable R99. Probably only in CA.

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1984 & 1985 CA 300D's
1964 & 65 Mopar's - Valiant, Dart, Newport
1996 & 2002 Chrysler minivans

We do a lot of harm to ourselves and the planet. The planet will do just fine once we kill off all of the people. How many nice juicy hamburgers do you want? How about pizza, bacon or omelets? Burning our food doesn't seem to be too bright since there isn't enough to go around but it's probably better than burning oil - if you have money.

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85SD 240K & stopped counting painted, putting bac together. 84SD 180,000. sold to a neighbor and member here but I forget his handle. The 84 is much improved from when I had it. 85TD beginning to repair to DD status. Lots of stuff to do.

We needn't make anyone suffer to take good care of the planet .

Common sense planning instead of knee jerk reactions will do the trick .

Never underestimate the Human Race nor Mother nature .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

Most of the effort is in the initial setup and securing the source(s). Then it can become routine with not that much more effort than pumping diesel with your credit card.

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'83 SD, 2x '85 SD
You are entitled to your own opinions, you are not entitled to your own facts.

I assume you're not doing this at home then as it takes multiple steps and very few bother to take every step and wind up killing the car in a year or two .

If you ARE doing this and 100 % properly ~ GOOD ON YOU ! .

I hate the oil slick around the big drum and I'm also too darn lazy to do all the steps every time .

I just discovered the union 76 gas station near my house has their new renewable Diesel fuel, I'll have to look into the cost of it and maybe give it a try, closer than any ProPel station right now.

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

Well... it's not cheaper than regular, but it's under $5 for the first time in months...
$4.88 in Monroe, NC

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

Elections are coming and the libbies see the writing on the wall.

I come from the future and I'm afraid I have some bad news..

Diesel is still $5.99 ~ $6.99 in California....

'libbies' have nothing to do with it but lying _is_ standard for alt-righties and other traitor cowards .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

Not sure what is ahead these days. In Canada a lot of people still heat with oil furnaces. It takes 2,100.00 to fill a two hundred imperial gallon oil tank currently. That would be about 39 American gallons more. So 239 American gallons.

It was 19.00 when my parents had an oil furnace installed all those years ago.

North Americans paid the price of whatever lobbied against diesel engines in cars. In north America. The clean very efficient diesel engines exist.

You will never be told that in the wifes car. The basic engine sold with it in Europe gives about 80 miles per American gallon. Or 103 miles per imperial gallon.

The same basic car here comes with the larger engine only. Optional in Europe. We also get hit with diesel fuel that is far less efficient than the product sold in most of Europe.

We buy premium diesel for the wifes car. The celane boost alone is worth it in increased fuel millage. It costs Seven and a half cents more per American gallon. It also is not generally available in America. You put normal diesel fuel in you can tell the difference.

A European automatically gets better fuel miliage even on an old 123 there. I well remember a few people there posting on site. What they get for fuel millage in their old 123s. Followed by our north American members countering it with they have to be wrong. European diesels where designed for better fuel than we feed them in north America.

I have suspected for a long time that if the influence of the big three could have been kept out of the picture. Plus that of the large oil companies.

Remember that diesel fuel was cheap and is still cheaper to produce than gasoline. There is a possibility that the diesell engine in cars in north America would have been a different reality today.

From what I can tell with the wives two liter engine. A good one liter diesel would perform about the same as a Toyota corolla. I also suspect with an engine that size the pollution would have been far more manageable. You probably would have had to increase the quality of diesel fuel sold in America as well though. I really still cannot see the all electric car as the answer to these times.

The ability to make cars that last a high amount of time longer also exists. The pollution alone to make our cars is substantial in itself.

I notice in Southern California that most branded filling stations now claim to have Bio Diesel, this isn't waste veggie oil crap .

I agree that the lower Cetane content decreases power and fuel economy .

My old battered 1982 240D doesn't leave any Diesel smoot on the bottom of the bumper nor does it emit visible smoke so even the older tech engines -can- run comparatively cleanly on Diesel fuel .

It's funny how some here first claim the fuel price is high because of Biden selling to the russians, then they lie (of course) and claim Biden sold fuel to the chinese at a discount (another lie it was sold to open bidders all 'round the world, the chinese paid more than anyone else) ad now that fuel prices are beginning to drop a little bit the new lie is how they love the russians that Biden sold the fuel to...

(what happened to blaming the chinese ?) .

And so it goes .

Never forget : we had reasonable fuel prices until the gop deregulated fuel pricing, claiming it would reduce the price when deregulation ha only ever increased pricing of anything .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

While people here fuss about diesel fuel price, over on Tesla forums owners fuss that Supercharger rates jumped from 30 to 58 c/kWh, at least in SoCal. Varies w/ locality and time of day, but now costlier than fueling a 40 mpg gas sedan. Of course, charging at home at midnight rates is smarter, though still painful price in San Diego. I remember the 1970's when M-B diesel cars were the rage, partly because the fuel was half the price of gasoline.