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Old 06-01-2013, 10:35 AM
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reusing boiled coolant

Couldn't find an answer for this. Can coolant that has boiled be reused or is it done for?

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Old 06-01-2013, 11:06 AM
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Couldn't find an answer for this. Can coolant that has boiled be reused or is it done for?
You can't hurt the coolant itself, but you may have boiled off some water and perhaps destroyed the additives. Probably good to get a coolant flush that replaces coolant and additives.
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I don't think you can hurt it.
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Old 06-01-2013, 12:48 PM
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You need to be more specific.

Type of coolant?

Age of coolant?

How hot for how long?

Were there bubbles / liquid coming out of the overflow?

Was the overheat caused by a failed head gasket / head that allowed combustion gasses to enter the cooling system?

Does the coolant smell burnt?
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Old 06-01-2013, 01:07 PM
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Type of coolant? Prestone dexcool

Age of coolant? About a year

How hot for how long? 110c 10 mins

Were there bubbles / liquid coming out of the overflow? Only if I released pressure does the coolant burst out.

Was the overheat caused by a failed head gasket / head that allowed combustion gasses to enter the cooling system? This is a big possibility.

Does the coolant smell burnt? It does not.
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Was not that the type of coolant called certain death or whatever? Taking it to 110 c in a closed cooling system should not degrade it.

I would do some research on that before making any decision. I may have the name of the coolant wrong but one sounding the same or that one was problematic. GM used a lot of it .

Best to dump it if your research shows it is what I think it is. Not because you overheated it as you really did not. Many pressurized systems operate at least sporaticaly at that temperature.
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Old 06-01-2013, 02:51 PM
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I had Dexcool in a Peugeot many years ago and after 3 years or so, I noticed a lot of red crusty buildup at all the hose connections (after hose removal). Don't know how Dexcool reacts in W123's. Per our phone conversation earlier today, you said when you changed to Dexcool from Green coolant, a handful of black gunk came out. I would suggest draining the Dexcool (capture and see how much gunk comes out) and do a flush, then put in the proper coolant (Mercedes or Zerex G05 available from NAPA)

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I typed in "Dexcool" in Google and this is the first link that comes up. Don't know if legit or not.

http://www.stevesnovasite.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-128547.html
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Dexcool is only for GM engines that were designed for it. Get that stuff out of your MB!!!! It will eat through everything.
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:45 PM
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Type of coolant? Prestone dexcool
This is long life coolant

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Age of coolant? About a year
This is 5 year / 150,000 mile rated


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How hot for how long? 110c 10 mins
At 230* F you are still below the coolants specs for max temp
From http://www.valvoline.com/pdf/zerex_dex_cool.pdf

Concentration________________40 ______50 _____70
Freeze point_________°F/°C -12/-24 -34/-36 -90/-67
Boiling Point @ 15 PSI, °F/°C 260/126 265/128 277/135




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Were there bubbles / liquid coming out of the overflow? Only if I released pressure does the coolant burst out.
Unless a car is pushing coolant out the overflow it isn't boiling.

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Was the overheat caused by a failed head gasket / head that allowed combustion gasses to enter the cooling system? This is a big possibility.
Given the coolant does not smell burnt and you were well below the coolant limits, I'd call it OK to use again.

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Does the coolant smell burnt? It does not.
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Dex cool is a good coolant but it isn't forever, it does not like being run with air in the system and that seems to lead to jelling.

Some get all fussy about coolant and say car X isn't designed for coolant Y but don't offer specifics. I've not come across any specifics as to what is different between systems.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:00 PM
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Remember that if you change coolant after the death cool. Flush the system well. I hope it was not in the system long enough to have done your radiator or in some other way causing the car to overheat.

I try to keep an open mind as there seem to be many posting no trouble with it as well. Yet at the same time I have never seen an anti freeze condemned as much as that one was. Thanks for posting the link funola. The negative claims are valid as at least locally it is known as certain death or whatever. I will go as far personally that if I saw it in a car I was interested in purchasing. It may be worth walking away. I think it is red in color.
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I would agree that you should get the Dexcool completely out of there. And I emphasized completely, because Dexcool OAT coolant does not mix with conventional coolant or HOAT coolants. It can precipitate a sludge! Not sure how that would be done by shop, but seems to me you need to drain block and rad, then flush thoroughly with water, then drain again before adding either conventional coolant (the green stuff), but read lable to make sure it says it is good for aluminum. That will have a relatively short life before needing a flush to restore additives. Better to filll with 50/50 HOAT which is what MB coolant and Zerex GO5 are.

This site provides a concise comparison of the three main coolant types:
Antifreeze Facts

This site says:

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8. What happens if you mix conventional Antifreeze with Extended Life antifreeze?
Extended Life (OAT) antifreeze is NOT compatible with conventional (IAT) antifreeze. Aside from discoloration of antifreeze when the two are mixed together, a chemical reaction is caused when the carboxylate salts are mixed with the inorganic salts and caustics found in conventional antifreeze. If they are mixed, the antifreeze can become cloudy, precipitation can generate and the coolant will lose it’s extended life properties.

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