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Old 06-14-2013, 02:50 PM
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I have had an exhaust shop test my cars pre cat pressure and it was 5 psi at idle. They were trying to hunt down a leak - which was non existant.

Infact if any exhaust experience guys can chime in Id really appreciate it.

I have a leaky exhaust sound at mid rpm and absolutely no exhaust leaks. Uptil now no exhaust shop has been able to repair this. All say that It "may" be the mufflers, it "may" be the header pipes resonating, - One shop said that I should buy a complete brand new MB exhaust system to repair this.

hmm about $2800/- Nopes.

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an old exhaust thread

95 e300d new exhaust pics

I thought my sluggish E300D was being caused by a blocked cat. It wasn't after all. It's still sluggish.
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Old 06-14-2013, 04:32 PM
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I do happen to know for sure that the exhaust manifold is a separate piece from the front section, which is why I asked the question in the first place.

Yes, it would be loud, but I would not drive it around the hood, just run it in the driveway for 30 seconds or so to see how the engine revs- better or the same.
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Called Pelican Parts. That front pipe? $1500! I don't think so.
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So, if it ends up being a clogged cat, and I choose to go the route of replacing the cat with a straight pipe, would there be any noticeable effects to that....other than the possibility of not passing emissions?
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Old 06-15-2013, 09:45 AM
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Slight increase in exhaust sound.
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So, if it ends up being a clogged cat, and I choose to go the route of replacing the cat with a straight pipe, would there be any noticeable effects to that....other than the possibility of not passing emissions?
Can you run biodiesel to pass emissions? Does a 1995 diesel need to pass emissions in RI?
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Can you run biodiesel to pass emissions? Does a 1995 diesel need to pass emissions in RI?
Car has to be at least 25 years old in RI to be exempt from emissions.
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5 psi? That seems huge. And the previously quoted 2 bar figure seems very wrong to me. The back pressure of engines is usually measured in inches of water column - fractions of a psi. Or kPa if you are a Euro guy. I'd like to see that 2 bar figure in writing somewhere.

I know for a fact that the limit for exhaust back pressure in one particular brand of multi thousand HP diesel engine is 12" water column, which is less than 0.5 psi.

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I have had an exhaust shop test my cars pre cat pressure and it was 5 psi at idle. They were trying to hunt down a leak - which was non existant.

Infact if any exhaust experience guys can chime in Id really appreciate it.

I have a leaky exhaust sound at mid rpm and absolutely no exhaust leaks. Uptil now no exhaust shop has been able to repair this. All say that It "may" be the mufflers, it "may" be the header pipes resonating, - One shop said that I should buy a complete brand new MB exhaust system to repair this.

hmm about $2800/- Nopes.
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5 psi? That seems huge. And the previously quoted 2 bar figure seems very wrong to me. The back pressure of engines is usually measured in inches of water column - fractions of a psi. Or kPa if you are a Euro guy. I'd like to see that 2 bar figure in writing somewhere.

I know for a fact that the limit for exhaust back pressure in one particular brand of multi thousand HP diesel engine is 12" water column, which is less than 0.5 psi.

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The number I quoted is from section 14-150 "Testing exhaust backpressure - Turbodiesel" in the FSM "Service Manual / Diesel Engines 603,603." It was the only number I could find and I noted in my post that the number was for a turbodiesel.

The current case is NOT a turbodiesel and I agree that the back pressure ought to be much less, providing the exhaust system is not blocked. Unfortunately, I cannot find any notes on exhaust backpressure in the OM606NA engine in either the W124 (CD-ROM) or the W210 (DVD) manuals.

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5 psi? That seems huge. And the previously quoted 2 bar figure seems very wrong to me. The back pressure of engines is usually measured in inches of water column - fractions of a psi. Or kPa if you are a Euro guy. I'd like to see that 2 bar figure in writing somewhere.

I know for a fact that the limit for exhaust back pressure in one particular brand of multi thousand HP diesel engine is 12" water column, which is less than 0.5 psi.

Rgds,
Chris W.
let me scoot back to the shop and look at the gauge he used.
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Mechanic confirmed it's a clogged exhaust. That's a relief. Now I'll just take it to an exhaust shop and have them weld in a new cat.
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you will need the magnaflow 93000 for the converter and 10758 Y pipe.

check for an autozone/advance coupon to save some $
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So you are going with a cat, then? Is this because you have to pass emissions?
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Please don't forget to post here with results of replacing the cat.

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