Postal Service Theft - Page 3 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Adriel · #31 07-23-2013, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cooljjay

That sounds like a plan! Let's get enough people on board and look for a nice property to rent.....somewhere hidden...so when we decide to go crazy, strip to our birthday suit and run around screaming no one can complain

plus there must be a nice large covered spot so we tinker with our toys out of the elements..

True, I honestly think my phone calls and emails are still being read...scary to think that...every now and then I get a message saying my account was logged into...

I need someone or thing to carry on a conversation with....I will opt for a parrot, that way it doesn't seem so crazy when I argue with myself

You misunderstood, though amusing! I really don't like naked people, though be different with my wife.

Hmmm, interesting.

I don't need to converse except with the Almighty; I am an introvert. I just need something to watch me and to take care of. Ember went to bed at 10 on my side, suggesting I am way late. But, she doesn't understand that you all need my help.

ROLLGUY · #32 07-23-2013, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Adriel

Rollguy only takes cash, and just as I suspected, they stole it (got the letter back today). Whole months pay to some low life! Not Rollguy's fault, just wanted to put a warning out there for other folks not to send cash via Postal Service. I trusted others, but as usual, got bitten.

So, would Fedex be better?

Sometimes I wish I wasn't mentally disabled...

I am not exactly sure how to respond, other than to say I am sorry this happened. I have been selling many different things this way for 10+ years, and have not lost a payment until now (I guess there is a first time for everything). I try to suggest that the $ be sent with a minimum of insurance and tracking, or certified with return receipt (cost around $6). I like to know (and have proof) that a payment was sent, and also the customer can know that I got it. Looking back at our correspondence (personal message), I can't see that I suggested getting insurance /tracking, or using certified mail. Maybe if I did suggest it, this all might not have happened. If the money was just put in an envelope and sent first class (without insurance, tracking, or certified), I could understand why it did not arrive. I believe the mail system to be very safe, but only if proper precautions are taken. It also seems that letters/packages that are insured are not as likely to get lost or stolen (I could detail an instance where a customer insured one package and not another, the insured package arrived, the uninsured one never did). I now insure all the merchandise I send out and have not had a problem. I can't afford to replace sent items because of lack of insurance.
Also, I only have a P.O. Box, so FedEx or UPS won't work either.
Again, I am sorry for your loss, and will try to help make sure it does not happen to anyone else....Rich

Adriel · #33 07-23-2013, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ROLLGUY

I am not exactly sure how to respond, other than to say I am sorry this happened. I have been selling many different things this way for 10+ years, and have not lost a payment until now (I guess there is a first time for everything). I try to suggest that the $ be sent with a minimum of insurance and tracking, or certified with return receipt (cost around $6). I like to know (and have proof) that a payment was sent, and also the customer can know that I got it. Looking back at our correspondence (personal message), I can't see that I suggested getting insurance /tracking, or using certified mail. Maybe if I did suggest it, this all might not have happened. If the money was just put in an envelope and sent first class (without insurance, tracking, or certified), I could understand why it did not arrive. I believe the mail system to be very safe, but only if proper precautions are taken. It also seems that letters/packages that are insured are not as likely to get lost or stolen (I could detail an instance where a customer insured one package and not another, the insured package arrived, the uninsured one never did). I now insure all the merchandise I send out and have not had a problem. I can't afford to replace sent items because of lack of insurance.
Also, I only have a P.O. Box, so FedEx or UPS won't work either.
Again, I am sorry for your loss, and will try to help make sure it does not happen to anyone else....Rich

Yep, you never mentioned it despite me asking what precautions to take. I put it in a concealed envelope with a plastic baggy. Not your fault I am not good a communicating, just frustrated.

Also, you never specified you like to know package sent and received. That might have helped in processing this right.

So, guess that means you are ending the deal. Double whammy of hurt. Bummer! Well, guess it isn't what it seemed. At least there is the other kit out there, but supposedly not as good and wanted to go small business and reward your hard work. I can only do so much, and feel bad I can't help you out. I love helping folks out to my detriment...

ROLLGUY · #34 07-23-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Adriel

Yep, you never mentioned it despite me asking what precautions to take. I put it in a concealed envelope with a plastic baggy. Not your fault I am not good a communicating, just frustrated.

Also, you never specified you like to know package sent and received. That might have helped in processing this right.

So, guess that means you are ending the deal. Double whammy of hurt. Bummer! Well, guess it isn't what it seemed. At least there is the other kit out there, but supposedly not as good and wanted to go small business and reward your hard work. I can only do so much, and feel bad I can't help you out. I love helping folks out to my detriment...

I hope I did not imply that the deal is ended. I saved the last kit for you, and am still willing to sell it to you if you still want it. Yes proper communication was lacking by both of us in this case, but I hope to learn from this....Rich

jab0028 · #35 07-24-2013, 02:26 PM

Sorry to hear of your misfortune. I attempted to purchase an A/C system from Rollguy, but when I found out that he only accepts cash, I chose not to continue. While I am sure that he is an honest person, I just do not trust sending cash in the mail. Insurance or not, it really does not protect the best interest of either party. I am in no form or fashion criticizing how Rollguy chooses to do business, it is his prerogative and those that have received his kit have had nothing but positive things to say about it. With that said, if Rollguy ever decides to accept paypal (with the buyer covering the fees), or postal money order, I will most definitely be purchasing a kit.

97 SL320 · #36 07-24-2013, 09:36 PM

Sending cash through the mail is very risky and I wouldn't do it.

A US postal money order is very secure. It can be cashed at _any_ post office with proper ID that matches what the sender put in the " To " field. It can also be cashed at a bank like a check. Cashing it at a post office isn't like cashing at a bank where you need an account, if the post office accept it they can't later claim it was fake and charge you back.

ROLLGUY · #37 07-24-2013, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ROLLGUY

Yes proper communication was lacking by both of us in this case, but I hope to learn from this....Rich

Actually, looking back at my sent messages, I was VERY specific about how the payment was to be sent in the message sent on 6/15/2013. I communicated to you in detail about all aspects of the transaction. There are other messages before and after with the same thorough communication. Looking through my sent messages, I now believe that there was no lack of communication on my part. I have sold about 22 of these kits so far, and have tried to communicate as much as possible to the buyers so the transaction goes smooth. I did all I could in this case.
I strive to be an asset to the Mercedes Benz community, and to offer a quality product (I use it on my own cars), at a reasonable price. My regular job depends on recommendations from other customers, and also repeat customers. One has to be honest, and provide a quality product in order to continue to have a job. This community is no different. Again, I am sorry to hear about your loss, and I would not be happy if it happened to me either. However, I would use it as a learning experience (although expensive), and hopefully not let it happen again.

83w126 · #38 07-25-2013, 12:31 AM

I also would chose to keep cash transactions only in person, there is no perfect way to deal with sending money to someone far away, but either a money order or paypal seems to be a better choice.

cooljjay · #39 07-25-2013, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 83w126

I also would chose to keep cash transactions only in person, there is no perfect way to deal with sending money to someone far away, but either a money order or paypal seems to be a better choice.

I totally agree...

Now not to take sides....or say who done right or done wrong....dealing with selling items online, I can apply a few things. Yes I have said, to bad so sorry...go away before but clearly if I made a mistake I tried my hardest to make things right..

I would personally offer him a kit out of kindness or offer up one at cost...

This is how I see it...

A-He should have never ever sent that amount of cash in a plain envelope...

B- As a business man, you should never advice your customers to send cash. This lends to a few things....your trying to escape the IRS, you are on a fixed income and hiding income, parts are stolen....either way it sounds like you don't want a paper trail...

Not trying to start a riot, I have read good things about your kits and I am sure your a good person...as with the op...but the saying goes if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its a duck

ROLLGUY · #40 07-25-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by cooljjay

I totally agree...

Now not to take sides....or say who done right or done wrong....dealing with selling items online, I can apply a few things. Yes I have said, to bad so sorry...go away before but clearly if I made a mistake I tried my hardest to make things right..

I would personally offer him a kit out of kindness or offer up one at cost...

This is how I see it...

A-He should have never ever sent that amount of cash in a plain envelope...

B- As a business man, you should never advice your customers to send cash. This lends to a few things....your trying to escape the IRS, you are on a fixed income and hiding income, parts are stolen....either way it sounds like you don't want a paper trail...

Not trying to start a riot, I have read good things about your kits and I am sure your a good person...as with the op...but the saying goes if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its a duck

You do have the right to free speech. You do have your own opinion. You also are free to make assumptions. You do know what happens when you assume? Please don't make an ASS of U or ME, especially me.

JamesDean · #41 07-25-2013, 11:37 AM

I can offer my experience with payments as it relates to my cruise control side business.

Most people pay me via PayPal, which is easy and I can directly transfer the funds to my checking account. I lose some 2% of each transaction (amounts to some $2 per unit) but its the cost of using PayPal. Not everyone is OK with that, there are alternatives of course.

The second most popular form of payment is Postal Money Order followed by personal check. I've never had a problem cashing either one at my bank and since I work from 7 am to around 545. I miss the bank by 45 mintues everyday. So Saturday morning is deposit day.

ROLLGUY, you should consider accepting Postal Money Orders unless you have something against them or have had a bad experience.

I read you use a P.O box? I think it would be just as easy to walk over and have them cash your money order right there.

I dont think I've had any one send me cash in the mail yet. Nothing over $20. The few cash transactions I've had were in-person.

I'm not saying anything about who is right/wrong/should offer this or that,etc just offering my experience with payment forms, maybe it'll expand sale if you open up to money orders?

Just adding my two cents!

jab0028 · #42 07-26-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesDean

I can offer my experience with payments as it relates to my cruise control side business.

Most people pay me via PayPal, which is easy and I can directly transfer the funds to my checking account. I lose some 2% of each transaction (amounts to some $2 per unit) but its the cost of using PayPal. Not everyone is OK with that, there are alternatives of course.

The second most popular form of payment is Postal Money Order followed by personal check. I've never had a problem cashing either one at my bank and since I work from 7 am to around 545. I miss the bank by 45 mintues everyday. So Saturday morning is deposit day.

ROLLGUY, you should consider accepting Postal Money Orders unless you have something against them or have had a bad experience.

I read you use a P.O box? I think it would be just as easy to walk over and have them cash your money order right there.

I dont think I've had any one send me cash in the mail yet. Nothing over $20. The few cash transactions I've had were in-person.

I'm not saying anything about who is right/wrong/should offer this or that,etc just offering my experience with payment forms, maybe it'll expand sale if you open up to money orders?

Just adding my two cents!

As a buyer I have no issue in paying the paypal fees just for peace of mind and I don't expect the seller to have to foot the bill. There are several calculators that make the process quick and easy. With that said many do not like paypal's policies in regards to ebay transactions that can go bad. Postal money order is also a good option for both the buyer and seller. I did not realize that the seller could cash it at the post office.

cook · #43 07-28-2013, 09:38 AM

I recently had to send some parts and cash using USPO.

It seemed like they are trying to do a good job with it.

I declared that I was sending parts and cash in the box, told them the value, asked for them to send it registred mail, and asked for a return receipt.

They had me add brown paper shipping tape all around the box. This was required because it is somewhat "tamper proof" meaning it would be obvious if someone had opened it.

They indicated it would take a bit longer to get there because they have to keep it in locked areas at all times -- indicating they hopefully have a "chain of custody" system in place.

I realize that any of these things could be defeated by someone that really wanted to get to my box, but they do make it a bit harder to get away with it.

I will know in a few days if it worked well or not.

I am not expecting any issues, but I will report back the results.

jkubica · #44 07-28-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Adriel

Rollguy only takes cash, and just as I suspected, they stole it (got the letter back today). Whole months pay to some low life! Not Rollguy's fault, just wanted to put a warning out there for other folks not to send cash via Postal Service. I trusted others, but as usual, got bitten.

So, would Fedex be better?

Sometimes I wish I wasn't mentally disabled...

More to the story?

The letter came back? Envelop was empty? What did the postal stamps say? Found damaged? Return to sender? Was the envelop damaged or show signs of being opened? Why was it returned?

Seems like if someone at USPS took the money - they would just get rid of the envelop too - and the same thing if someone outside of USPS.

rrgrassi · #45 07-28-2013, 08:49 PM

I have had letter returned like that when paying a bill. It was a mortgage payment that never reached its destination. The envelope and check were mangled by a USPS letter sorting machine.

I do not send cash through the mail. I will send check or MO, or paypal. I do understand the reasoning for just accepting cash. No need to deal with the bank, plus cash can be hidden from the thieving IRS.

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