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Old 08-03-2013, 10:55 AM
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Is that on the Sticker at the Pump?

If it is 53 Cetane I am curious why the Power Service Diesel Kleen has an effect of raising the Cetane.
There is a clear difference in the amount of smoke on the Volvo Diesel and when used in the Mercedes and the Engine is running but still cold it is not as noisy with the Power Service.
So the stuff must be having some effect.

"California diesel fuel has a minimum cetane of 53" from Wikiepedia. http://www.arb.ca.gov/enf/fuels/dieselspecs.pdf
I don't know what's going on with your VW powered Volvo, I'm not familiar with that engine. I've only owned redblocks and white blocks.

Federal and state law does not require a cetane rating be posted on diesel fuel pumps. That doesn't change the fact that CARB specifies minimum 53 cetane and maximum 520 micron lubricity rating, as your link points out. The latest test data I've seen from CARB said on average fuel sampled in the state was 55.8 cetane.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/lcfs/20130731arbwaterboardjointstatementrd.pdf

For better or worse, CARB strictly enforces the quality of all fuels sold in the state. Since CARB is free to make its own rule about fuels sold in the state, CA is essentially an island when it comes to refined fuels and it makes everything more expensive, especially gasoline.

Chevron Pays CARB Fine | Transport Topics Online | Trucking, Freight Transportation and Logistics News
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Petroleum supplier Chevron U.S.A. paid a $422,500 fine to the California Air Resources Board for supplying gasoline and diesel fuel that CARB said violated California air quality regulations.

Chevron agreed to pay the penalties as part of three separate settlements it reached with the California regulatory board, according to a CARB release.

In all, 15.9 million gallons of fuel were found to be violation of state regulations. In two cases, Chevron disclosed the violations. In the third, CARB enforcement staff discovered the violation as a result of routine fuel sampling.

Specifically, Chevron paid $205,000 for supplying more than 385,000 gallons of gasoline between mid-June 2009 and Aug. 1, 2009 that did not contain adequate amounts of ethanol to meet state regulations, CARB said.

Chevron also paid $192,500 for supplying more than 15.5 million gallons of gasoline that contained olefin levels that exceeded required specifications. Higher levels of olefin contribute to higher levels of more smog, CARB said.

Chevron also paid $25,000 in penalties for supplying and selling more than 36,000 gallons of diesel fuel in 2009 that did not meet a required minimum cetane number. The cetane number indicates the combustion quality of a diesel fuel, and how likely it is to create excess hydrocarbon emissions, CARB said.
Since CARB diesel cetane is already very high, the only thing to worry about in this state is lubricity. BOSCH pointed this out in this presentation to CARB in 2003. Bosch was pushing to include a 460 micron lubricity standard to the upcoming ULSD CARB rules but they lost that battle.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/gasoline/meeting/2003/022003bosch.pdf
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Myself as well, but 4 oz per ten gallons.

The cetane rating around here is 40.
Feredal law requires that all ULSD sold in the US since 2006 is either minimum 47 or 48 cetane depending on which refinery it came from. 40 cetane fuel hasn't been sold in this country for almost a decade.
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:14 PM
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Just going by the sticker on the pump.
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Just going by the sticker on the pump.
The sticker on that pump is out of date.
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Old 08-03-2013, 04:39 PM
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I also add a little 2 cycle motor oil (outboard oil from Wal Mart) to the fuel to help lub the fuel pump. Only when I change the main fuel filter do I fill the filter with Power Service cleaner. Runs smoothly after 26 years.
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Old 08-03-2013, 09:31 PM
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The sticker on that pump is out of date.
I've contacted Exxon, no response yet. But it's the weekend.
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Old 08-03-2013, 09:41 PM
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I don't know what's going on with your VW powered Volvo, I'm not familiar with that engine. I've only owned redblocks and white blocks.

Federal and state law does not require a cetane rating be posted on diesel fuel pumps. That doesn't change the fact that CARB specifies minimum 53 cetane and maximum 520 micron lubricity rating, as your link points out. The latest test data I've seen from CARB said on average fuel sampled in the state was 55.8 cetane.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/lcfs/20130731arbwaterboardjointstatementrd.pdf

For better or worse, CARB strictly enforces the quality of all fuels sold in the state. Since CARB is free to make its own rule about fuels sold in the state, CA is essentially an island when it comes to refined fuels and it makes everything more expensive, especially gasoline.

Chevron Pays CARB Fine | Transport Topics Online | Trucking, Freight Transportation and Logistics News


Since CARB diesel cetane is already very high, the only thing to worry about in this state is lubricity. BOSCH pointed this out in this presentation to CARB in 2003. Bosch was pushing to include a 460 micron lubricity standard to the upcoming ULSD CARB rules but they lost that battle.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/gasoline/meeting/2003/022003bosch.pdf

Feredal law requires that all ULSD sold in the US since 2006 is either minimum 47 or 48 cetane depending on which refinery it came from. 40 cetane fuel hasn't been sold in this country for almost a decade.
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What happened is My Fuel Injection Pump Rear Seal was leaking.

Instead only replacing the Seal; and, that can be done without taking the Fuel Injection Pump apart; I decided to take the Fuel Injection Pump apart to replace 2 little Rubber Cushions that are in side.

I felt if the Seal was bad those Cushions should be hard.

Well I was wrong about that.

I for got to take some measurements of some of the internal Parts that had adjustments and now if I am just a little bit heavy on the Pedal I can get a good cloud of Black Smoke.

Also unfortunate is that all of the Fuel Injection Pump disassembly threads and pics I have been able to find on the Internet are for the VW Rabbit.
The VW Rabbit IP is almost the same with a major exception that there is a part on Mine that has an adjustment and on the VW Pump it is just a long sort of Guide Pin with no adjustment.

So there is the adjustment of that Guide Pin that I did not measure
The direction of a piece inside of the Fuel Injection Pump that can go on 2 ways but is only supposed to go on one way the I did not note.
And, the position of a lever on the side of the Fuel Injection Pump that has to do with excessive Fuel for starting that I did not mark.

Other wise it runs good.

I have only seen one Volvo Diesel at the Junk Yard since 1992 and there was only 2 other one running around in the Long Beach area and one of them was the one I saw at the Junk Yard.

So I had been driving the Car since 1992. The Fuel Injection Pump issue happened about 4 years ago.
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Thanks for the info, folks.

Sounds like the occasional shot of ATF or similar in the fuel filter when changed may be a good idea for maintenance, and as long as lubricity is good then a constant diet of additives is not necessary.
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I fill the filter with ATF when I change it, then I know the filter is being filled from a clean container.

I add 1oz of two cycle oil to each gallon of fuel on fill up. I don`t trust that the diesel we buy has enough or any lubrisity to it. so far adding it hasn`t hurt anything. I buy it by the gallon at Wallyworld.

I remember Forcedinduction use to argue that the fuel didn`t need anything else added, it was a waste of money.
Now he is arguing on some other forum till he gets banned.


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Old 08-04-2013, 08:41 AM
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B100 Biodiesel here in Houston, 100% as long as the weather permits. Makes a world of difference over petro diesel with any additive.
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Old 08-04-2013, 09:05 AM
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I use a lubricate,either MMO,2 stroke oil, or one pint vegetable oil to a tank of fuel.
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Old 08-04-2013, 10:27 AM
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Oregon diesel is B5. I should be good on lubricity.
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Old 08-04-2013, 10:32 AM
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I usually use nothing. If I remember it in the winter I will add some diesel conditioner now and again. If I suspect bacteria I treat with biocide.

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