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Old 07-25-2013, 09:36 PM
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Need New Rear Springs

Yes, my rear end is sagging!
Anyone purchased and installed new "heavy duty" rear springs
On a 1995 E300D ?
Any helpful suggestions are welcome? No butt tuck jokes allowed...unless they are really funny.
******** lists a bunch of them....I wouldn't mind the highest strongest
Springs since I seem to always have a bunch of tools in the trunk.

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Old 07-25-2013, 11:33 PM
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I'd stick with stock really. They're usually pretty heavy duty to begin with.

I've not priced them out on my E300 yet, but I know on my w123 the rear springs were $60 each from the dealer. Lesjofers wanted just a little more than that plus shipping.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:33 AM
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Alright, so a bit of research and my first guess was right.

Mercedes gives you a chart for springs and spring pads.

You have a 95 E300 so you start with 124.131 with 30 points.

Then points as shown for accessories.
Acc.___________________points
hitching mechanism---------------7
sliding roof------------------------3
automobile telephon--------------3
auto-limited slipdifferential--------3

The springs are the same for each point count. 124 324 11 04
[Different springs for self-leveling and for sport suspension]

Then you have two choices for pads:

Points____________Pad______________Dealer price
31-32----------------201 325 10 44------------$9.25
33-40----------------201 325 11 44------------$10.50

It looks like the only adjustment you have is really the pad you use.


And I did a quick price check on the springs.
Lesjofers (OES)
Aut0hausAZ- $46.34
Partsg33k-$39.25

Genuine MBZ
parts.c0m-$82.80
dealer MSRP- $115.00
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I recondition w123/w126/w124/w140/r107/r129/ steering boxes!


1984 300D "Elsa" odo reset 6/2011 147k
1983 300TD "Mitzi" ~268k OM603 powered
1995 E300 "Adelheid" 262k [Sold]
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Old 07-26-2013, 12:46 PM
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Alright, so a bit of research and my first guess was right.

Mercedes gives you a chart for springs and spring pads.

You have a 95 E300 so you start with 124.131 with 30 points.

Then points as shown for accessories.
Acc.___________________points
hitching mechanism---------------7
sliding roof------------------------3
automobile telephon--------------3
auto-limited slipdifferential--------3

The springs are the same for each point count. 124 324 11 04
[Different springs for self-leveling and for sport suspension]

Then you have two choices for pads:

Points____________Pad______________Dealer price
31-32----------------201 325 10 44------------$9.25
33-40----------------201 325 11 44------------$10.50

It looks like the only adjustment you have is really the pad you use.


And I did a quick price check on the springs.
Lesjofers (OES)
Aut0hausAZ- $46.34
Partsg33k-$39.25

Genuine MBZ
parts.c0m-$82.80
dealer MSRP- $115.00
Some additional information.
I believe the Lesjofers springs might be slightly stiffer than spec calls for. At least this is what my mechanic told me..

Some stuff i found in the FSM:





And here is the same data martureo mentioned. I took a screen shot from the EPC:

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Old 07-27-2013, 12:49 AM
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what on earth do a sliding roof and a telephone have to do with the car's suspension?
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:40 AM
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what on earth do a sliding roof and a telephone have to do with the car's suspension?

Weight. these are finely tuned machines.............when they left the factory.

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Old 08-06-2013, 11:12 AM
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Thank you gentlemen! What great responses.
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:11 PM
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So, I called the dealer....
- Footnote -
Mode : MD mode FIN/MD : 124051
Catalog no. : 15T -As of 09/89 VIN :
Major assembly :
Sales designation : 300 CE-24,AMG 300 CE 3.4
Major assembly MD :
Assortment class : Car
Group : 32 - SPRINGS,SUSPENSION AND HYDRAULICS Market : Europe
Subgroup : 120 - REAR SPRINGS AND SUSPENSION STANDARD SUSPENSION
- Parts list -
Item no. Part no. Designation/description Quantity Version
5 A 124 324 16 04 REAR SPRING AS REQUIRED 002
Footnote
Description
006
TO ASCERTAIN THE REAR SPRINGS,PLEASE ADD UP IN THE CHART BELOW THE NUMBERS OF POINTS OF THE RESPECTIVE MODEL AND
006
OF THE SPECIAL VERSIONS INSTALLED
006
==================================================================================================== ========================
=
006
MODEL POINTS CODE SPECIAL EQUIPMENT POINTS
006
124.041 25 550 HITCHING MECHANISM 7
006
124.043 25 307 COOL BOX 6
006
124.050 28 412,414 SLIDING ROOF 3
006
124.051 31 274,325 AUTOMOBILE TELEPHON 3
006
211 AUTO. LIMITED-SLIP DIFFERENTIAL 3
006
430 REAR SEAT BENCH HEADRESTS 1
006
420,425
AUTOMATIC
TRANSMISSION
1
006
480
SELF-LEVELLING
DEVICE
1
006
==================================================================================================== ========================
=
006
CHART OF REAR SPRING RUBBER PADS W/STANDARD SPRING SUSPENSION
006
==================================================================================================== ========================
=
006
TOTAL OF POINTS REAR SPRING PAD PAD
006
REAR SPRING BLUE REAR SPRING RED
006
-30 124 324 16 04 201 325 10 44 201 325 11 44
006
006
31-32 124 324 11 04 201 325 09 44 201 325 10 44
006
33-40 124 324 11 04 201 325 10 44 201 325 11 44
006
41- 124 324 11 04 201 325 11 44
006
==================================================================================================== ========================
=
006
CHART OF REAR SPRING RUBBER PADS W/HARDER SPRING SUSPENSION CODE 482
006
==================================================================================================== ========================
=
006
TOTAL OF POINTS REAR SPRING PAD PAD
006
REAR SPRING BLUE REAR SPRING RED
006
-25 124 324 12 04 201 325 09 44 201 325 10 44
006
26-33 124 324 12 04 201 325 10 44 201 325 11 44
006
34-40 124 324 12 04 201 325 11 44
006
006
41-44 124 324 21 04 201 325 10 44 201 325 11 44
006
45- 124 324 21 04 201 325 11 44
006
==================================================================================================== ========================
=
006
CHART OF REAR SPRING RUBBER PADS W/SELF LEVELLING DEVICE CODE 480
006
==================================================================================================== ========================
=
Copyright Daimler AG, 29/10/10, EPC net 1.20.3.0, DW 06/2008 Page 1
and....
014
014
31-32 124 324 11 04 201 325 09 44 201 325 10 44
014
33-40 124 324 11 04 201 325 10 44 201 325 11 44
014
41- 124 324 11 04 201 325 11 44
014
==================================================================================================== ========================
=
014
CHART OF REAR SPRING RUBBER PADS W/HARDER SPRING SUSPENSION CODE 482
014
==================================================================================================== ========================
=
014
TOTAL OF POINTS REAR SPRING PAD PAD
014
REAR SPRING BLUE REAR SPRING RED
014
-25 124 324 12 04 201 325 09 44 201 325 10 44
014
26-33 124 324 12 04 201 325 10 44 201 325 11 44
014
34-40 124 324 12 04 201 325 11 44
014
014
41-44 124 324 21 04 201 325 10 44 201 325 11 44
014
45- 124 324 21 04 201 325 11 44
014
==================================================================================================== ========================
=
014
CHART OF REAR SPRING RUBBER PADS W/SELF LEVELLING DEVICE CODE 480
014
==================================================================================================== ========================
=
014
TOTAL OF POINTS REAR SPRING PAD PAD
014
REAR SPRING BLUE REAR SPRING RED
014
-25 124 324 22 04 201 325 09 44 201 325 10 44
014
26-31 124 324 22 04 201 325 10 44 201 325 11 44
014
.
014
32-36 124 324 13 04 201 325 09 44 201 325 10 44
014
37-41 124 324 13 04 201 325 10 44 201 325 11 44
014
42- 124 324 13 04 201 325 11 44
014
==================================================================================================== ========================
=
014
CHART OF REAR SPRING RUBBER PADS W/SELF LEVELLING DEVICE HARDER SPRING SUSPENSION CODE 485
014
==================================================================================================== ========================
=
014
TOTAL OF POINTS REAR SPRING PAD PAD
014
REAR SPRING BLUE REAR SPRING RED
014
-27 124 324 14 04 201 325 09 44 201 325 10 44
014
28-34 124 324 14 04 201 325 10 44 201 325 11 44
014
.
014
35-43 201 324 26 04 201 325 10 44 201 325 11 44
014
44- 201 324 26 04 201 325 11 44
014
==================================================================================================== ========================
=
014
CHART OF REAR SPRING RUBBER PADS "SPORTS UNDERCARRIAGE" CODE 651/653/952
014
==================================================================================================== ========================
=
014
TOTAL OF POINTS REAR SPRING PAD PAD
014
REAR SPRING BLUE REAR SPRING RED
014
-31 124 324 23 04 201 325 10 44 201 325 11 44
014
014
32-41 124 324 28 04 201 325 09 44 201 325 10 44
014
42-50 124 324 28 04 201 325 10 44 201 325 11 44
014
51- 124 324 28 04 201 325 11 44
014
==================================================================================================== ========================
=
014
CHART OF REAR SPRING RUBBER PADS"SPORTS UNDERCARRIAGE W/S-LEVELLING DEVICE" CODE 480+651/653/952
014
==================================================================================================== ========================
=
014
TOTAL OF POINTS REAR SPRING PAD PAD
014
REAR SPRING BLUE REAR SPRING RED
014
-26 124 324 27 04 201 325 09 44 201 325 10 44
014
27-33 124 324 27 04 201 325 10 44 201 325 11 44
014
.
014
34-36 201 324 36 04 201 325 09 44 201 325 10 44
014
37-42 201 324 36 04 201 325 10 44 201 325 11 44
014
.
014
43-49 124 324 26 04 201 325 09 44 201 325 10 44
014
50- 124 324 26 04 201 325 10 44 201 325 11 44
014
==================================================================================================== ========================
=
032
INAPPLICABLE TO VEHICLES WITH SPORTS UNDERCARRIAGE
Copyright Daimler AG, 29/10/10, EPC net 1.20.3.0, DW 06/2008 Page 3

and...
another page that wouldn't copy paste!

Sheesh!
I was given the wrong part # 5 times by 4 different part houses and the dealer was almost the worst! $175 @ spring plus $10.50 @ pad
I'm still looking for heaviest duty spring and thickest pad at a reasonable price.
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:24 PM
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So, I called the dealer....
I was given the wrong part # 5 times by 4 different part houses and the dealer was almost the worst! $175 @ spring plus $10.50 @ pad
I'm still looking for heaviest duty spring and thickest pad at a reasonable price.
By best guess:

124 324 11 04 is heaviest duty spring.
201 325 11 44 is thickest pad.

The spring is Lesjofors part number 4256803. Price is $46/each.
Pads are MB, $10 each.

Since Pelican doesn't have them, check out auto haus az. They have the springs and pads.
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89 420SEL 210k
89 560SEL 118k
90 300SE 262k RIP 5/25/2010
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93 300E 195k
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:37 AM
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By best guess:

124 324 11 04 is heaviest duty spring.
201 325 11 44 is thickest pad.

The spring is Lesjofors part number 4256803. Price is $46/each.
Pads are MB, $10 each.

Since Pelican doesn't have them, check out auto haus az. They have the springs and pads.
Thanks JD, I went with partsgxxk $39 @ which another member suggested, see above.
will order pads tomorrow...$8.50 @
building spring compressor now...seems like a fun challenge.
btw, my cruise control doesn't work...before I try another unit (i have 3, but they could all be bad)
I heard that "re soldering the connections is a possible fix...do you agree?

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