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Secondaries 08-31-2013 12:18 AM

W126 shocks on W123 - anyone tried it?
 
Front and rear - they look similar as far as mounting goes. I'm considering Bilstein Sport (B8) shocks. I figure the increased damping should work well on a lighter car than intended, with stiffer springs than intended.

Anyone tried installing W126 springs on a W123? Is there a difference in expanded/collapsed height? Shock mounts?

Skid Row Joe 08-31-2013 12:39 AM

NOT MUCH HELP, BUT:
 
Do a cross-reference @ NAPA, and/or AutoZone, or another Import Auto Parts store tomorrow.

I did the free replacement deal through AutoZone on my W126's Bilsteins in the '90s. -Best deal going! 100% FREE replacement when just one shock starts leaking oil - take 'em ALL back with your receipt for a FREE SET!

Secondaries 08-31-2013 12:42 AM

A cross reference will not work, since they do not cross reference. Two different part numbers, and the mouth breathers at auto parts stores become useless if the numbers don't match.

I will just buy a cheap or used shock if nobody here has any experience, but I hope someone might.

Skid Row Joe 08-31-2013 12:46 AM

By tomorrow afternoon - I'm relatively certain that any number of guys here will give definitive answers to your original Q.

Zacharias 08-31-2013 01:14 AM

I have only investigated rear shocks. Technically they are different part numbers for the original equipment.

In the aftermarket: Bilstein lists different part numbers for w123 and w126, however Bilstein prides itself (i.e., claims) that it valves shocks to each individual application. So it would make sense they have different shocks for each.

I found that other aftermarket suppliers I looked at (Koni, KYB and Monroe) list the same part number for certain applications on both.

That says they should fit. It does not guarantee you will get the performance characteristics you are looking for....

macdoe 08-31-2013 05:58 AM

I used a pair of rear shocks out of a w126 in a w123 car. Worked fine, don't know about the fronts.

Secondaries 08-31-2013 11:35 AM

Well on further research, KYB brand lists the same part number for front shocks for both W123 and W126. Promising! Also, Monroe has different shocks for the two cars, with the following compressed/expanded specs.

W123: 15.125" / 20.000" (stroke: 4.875")

W126: 13.625" / 18.375" (stroke: 4.750")

More good news! If Monroe's products are any indication of what to expect from Bilstein, W126 front shocks have a 50% travel height 1 9/16" lower than W123 shocks. So now I have a target ride height!

That question answered, I'd still like to know of any first hand experience running W126 shocks and their damping characteristics on the smaller car.

macdoe 08-31-2013 01:06 PM

That Monroe stuff is absolute junk. I would never in a million years put monroe stuff on my car. I think I would rather ride on 30 year old broken Bilsteins than buy new Monroe's.

Secondaries 08-31-2013 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macdoe (Post 3199961)
That Monroe stuff is absolute junk. I would never in a million years put monroe stuff on my car. I think I would rather ride on 30 year old broken Bilsteins than buy new Monroe's.

Thanks for the concern but if you look back I never mentioned using Monroe shocks. I only used their specifications for comparison purposes.

macdoe 08-31-2013 01:28 PM

My Dad used those monroes a couple times for his courier van. Both pair finished in less than 3 months. He never used them again. Granted that courier work is hard on them, but still. I am sure some of these forum members are still riding on 30 year old bilsteins, I know one of ours still has them.

jt20 08-31-2013 01:41 PM

Billsteins from a W126 worked just fine in my W123 wagon.

Secondaries 08-31-2013 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jt20 (Post 3199975)
Billsteins from a W126 worked just fine in my W123 wagon.

Sweet! What model did you go with? They offer B8 "Sprint" shocks for 126 cars and from what I can glean they are lowered versions of B6 "Sport" shocks.

macdoe 08-31-2013 02:59 PM

What are you building? Sounds like a lower ride height is what your looking to do.

Secondaries 08-31-2013 03:19 PM

A dedicated autocross race car.

macdoe 09-01-2013 12:35 AM

nice... will it run on biodiesel?

Secondaries 09-01-2013 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macdoe (Post 3200159)
nice... will it run on biodiesel?

I'm still debating what percentage to run but yes, there will be some amount of biodiesel in the blend. I run it straight in my wagon but I think spinning upwards of 4800RPM calls for something with a faster flame front!

Sev 03-27-2016 09:47 PM

So, Secondaries. Did you ever try the w126 shocks on the w123? If so what model did you for? I'm also looking for something with less travel distance than the bilstein HD

Quote:

Originally Posted by jt20 (Post 3199975)
Billsteins from a W126 worked just fine in my W123 wagon.


jt20, I know wagons are taller in the rear due to SLS. But regarding the fronts - did you use bilstein sports or even hd's from w126 on the t123 wagon?

Sev 11-09-2019 03:44 AM

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Check it, yo! 300sel at Pick your part, last day in the yard before they take it out Scored a set of H&R springs and b8 billies as seen below If the info from this thread is to be believed, these shocks are gonna work on my 300d. Okay, so I already had the H&R lowering springs for my 300d, not the ones pictured but actual ones made for w123, now these relatively young shocks, and let's see what happens. Now, like the Source of Mercedes says on his video, you never know if a used shock is good just by bench testing it. I agree. But what's the worst can happen? I'd need to buy new shocks? Big deal PyP Price: "spring and shock" $15 each x 4 = $60 with tax and stuff = $70 Guy's, it's time to lower the 300d. Booya!


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