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Bugeye_WRX 09-12-2013 11:42 PM

1976 W114/115 300D not starting
 
Okay, so I purchased this car last Sunday for a grand.
Ran beautifully, had a little trouble getting started but with a new battery did fine.

Got it home, turned off and it wouldn't come back.
Hooked a charger up to it with the engine start mode and it fired up , but then that charger broke.

Other night had it hooked with the jumpers to the f250 diesel and it would turn over, quick too, but just wouldn't fire up.
Now I purchased another charger, and let it charge, now the car wont even turn over.

Battery light stays on until the battery drains itself.

I turn the key, glow plug light lights up, goes off after 20 seconds or so and I go to start an click, nothing now.
I'll see a spark come off the battery, also after that I'll have to push the battery a little get the connection again.

I was thinking internal voltage regulator.
Checked fuses, they all look decent, or connected at least.

Any suggestions?

whunter 09-13-2013 12:06 AM

Answer
 
Sounds like a bad connection at the battery terminal has blown the voltage regulator.

you may find this thread useful and interesting.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/321775-welcome-fleet-1976-w115-114-300d-dark-green.html


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Bugeye_WRX 09-13-2013 12:15 AM

you can blow those ? like the brushes ? I tried removing it but the tiny little flat head screws are sucha ***** to get off. especially with not alot of room in their. The wires going to the regulator were frayed a little and exposed metal, could it have grounded out on the alternator ?

whunter 09-13-2013 12:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeye_WRX (Post 3205643)
you can blow those ? like the brushes ? I tried removing it but the tiny little flat head screws are sucha ***** to get off. especially with not a lot of room in their. The wires going to the regulator were frayed a little and exposed metal, could it have grounded out on the alternator ?

Yes, a loose battery connection on a running engine can blow the voltage regulator.

Grounding the wrong alternator wire to the case can blow the voltage regulator.

Pictures of the wired damage, may help diagnosis.

I agree, the screws are a PIA in the tight space, IMO it is slightly easier to remove the alternator and work on a bench.

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whunter 09-13-2013 12:42 AM

FYI
 
You really need to read this
I have documented many issues on my daughters 1976 300D in this thread.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/321775-welcome-fleet-1976-w115-114-300d-dark-green.html

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Bugeye_WRX 09-13-2013 01:18 PM

Would having a blown voltage regulator prevent it from starting ? Even with a fully charged battery

whunter 09-14-2013 12:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeye_WRX (Post 3205892)
Would having a blown voltage regulator prevent it from starting ? Even with a fully charged battery

No.
Odds are there is a glow plug or valve adjustment issue.
Seriously plugged fuel filters can also be a factor.

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Bugeye_WRX 09-14-2013 10:34 AM

The glow plug light comes on, yet I don't here any click or noise from the relay, would the light come on if there was a problem? I'm about to replace all the inline filters and do a valve adjustment also probably switch over to the pencil type plugs, I'll let yah know how it goes

Bugeye_WRX 09-16-2013 06:33 PM

But now that it wont even turn over, it just clicks , you could assume its the starter ?

Bugeye_WRX 09-16-2013 08:26 PM

Okaay so I'm dumb and just realized the ground cable looked a bit corroded , re did the wire , started right up! Now onto the preventative maintance

cooljjay 09-16-2013 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeye_WRX (Post 3207489)
Okaay so I'm dumb and just realized the ground cable looked a bit corroded , re did the wire , started right up! Now onto the preventative maintance

If the ground or positive wire are bulging from corrosion....I would replace them....well matter a fact..... I would upgrade them now to a thicker gauge....call it preventive maintenance...

Bugeye_WRX 09-17-2013 08:14 AM

Okay so went to start this morning and no glow plug light, bot sure if maybe the battery just doesnt have enough juice to do it . When I crank it the gp light will comeon an it'll crank but no start .. Can I think it doesnt have enough power or replace gp's


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