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Old 09-17-2013, 07:00 PM
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Check the length on the pressure relief valve spring on the Eng side of the IP. Rebuild kit for the lift pump is cheap. I have a spare ill let go for a 6pack.
At first I was going to say 'why' but I decided to do a search and now I see where you're coming from. (Seems like a pretty credible theory)

Lay beck 40 brought up a good point in this thread which I will check when I get the chance to do another bottle run.

1979 300td -- Can anybody walk me through a lift pump test?

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Old 09-17-2013, 07:06 PM
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At first I was going to say 'why' but I decided to do a search and now I see where you're coming from. (Seems like a pretty credible theory)

Lay beck 40 brought up a good point in this thread which I will check when I get the chance to do another bottle run.

1979 300td -- Can anybody walk me through a lift pump test?
Every 617 I have had, it has given appreciable results.
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Old 09-18-2013, 08:36 PM
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Ok here is the current situation and diagnosis.

The good news? All signs indicate that my tank strainer is at least ok and not the source of the low power issues.

First, this is the fuel that I dumped out of the main fuel filter that I replaced just the other week. (Looks pretty bad but I didn't want to jump to conclusions so I kept going)


This is the fuel that I used for the closed circuit test


And this is what the return line brought back at the end of the test.


Here is where things get interesting though. Running off the bottle with a BRAND NEW main fuel filter had NO impact on performance whatsoever.


However before I fiddled around with the filters and bottle I decided to check the banjo bolt on the engine side of the injection pump as winmutt suggested. My spring was just around 20mm. I did a quick stretch (By hand...unscientific but this was just a test.) drove the truck and noticed better reactions to my inputs. Ok, now we're getting somewhere 8-)

I've been doing quite a bit of searching but I can't find out if anyone ever managed to find a suitable replacement spring for the banjo bolt..... (I should mention that my uncle works for a spring manufacturer and might be able to come up with something)

Here are a pair of videos of the return fuel supply which I took at the end of the bottle test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRPDA5LwI1Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWL5peJ4f4Q
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Have you had someone sit in the wagon....while off....floor the accelerator and confirm the linkage is hitting the full throttle stop? Also not sure on a g wagon, but on the cars.....there is a firewall pivot bushing that rots and causes issues, there was also one year that Mercedes used a rubber bushing near the stop lever....which rotted....and on the euro models, where the fork goes into the stop lever....there are two plastic bushings that are usually mia and people don't know there is suppose to be a bushing there....
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Old 09-18-2013, 09:13 PM
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Have you had someone sit in the wagon....while off....floor the accelerator and confirm the linkage is hitting the full throttle stop? Also not sure on a g wagon, but on the cars.....there is a firewall pivot bushing that rots and causes issues, there was also one year that Mercedes used a rubber bushing near the stop lever....which rotted....and on the euro models, where the fork goes into the stop lever....there are two plastic bushings that are usually mia and people don't know there is suppose to be a bushing there....
Already tested that. It's good.
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Iirc spring should be 27mm. You can order repolacments from Bosch shops.
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:05 AM
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Iirc spring should be 27mm. You can order replacements from Bosch shops.
Does it have a part number?

(When you say Bosch shops I presume you mean general retailers? NAPA, Autozone etc?)
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Bump-Does anyone know of a source for these 27mm springs?

(I can't seem to find a Bosch shop in my area)
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:09 AM
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I made and sold some adjustable fuel pressure regulators as well as fuel pressure test kits a few years ago. Not sure if I have any left. I'll look if you like.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:20 AM
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I made and sold some adjustable fuel pressure regulators as well as fuel pressure test kits a few years ago. Not sure if I have any left. I'll look if you like.
Thanks for the offer (I just read your thread on them, nice work on the adjustable models!)

Right now however my goal is to stay as stock as possible in order to narrow down the power loss. My spring is 20mm and probably just one step in the process, once I get a new spring in and see the difference i'll be able to know where to focus next.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:27 AM
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Thanks for the offer (I just read your thread on them, nice work on the adjustable models!)

Right now however my goal is to stay as stock as possible in order to narrow down the power loss. My spring is 20mm and probably just one step in the process, once I get a new spring in and see the difference i'll be able to know where to focus next.
Just stretch the spring and measure pressure before installing.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:31 AM
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Just stretch the spring and measure pressure before installing.
Sad to say but I don't have a pressure gauge and i'm pretty sure that the spring would just re-compress very quickly anyways.
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If you get a new spring you still have to measure it to know where the pressure is set.
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Have you verified as suggested earlier that both G wagens have the same differential? Best way is crawl under and read the part number.
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Old 09-24-2013, 11:40 AM
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Have you verified as suggested earlier that both G wagens have the same differential? Best way is crawl under and read the part number.
Yes they both have the same differentials.

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