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Old 09-17-2013, 05:44 PM
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W124 Rear Hub Set Dowel

I had purchased some Balo rear rotors for my 91 300D and my 92 300D (from that place in Arizona). The rotors that I bought have six holes: five for the bolts and one for a set screw. But on the hub there's also a "dowel" (on the parts supplier site I see it's called a locator pin) that sticks out, requiring yet another hole in rotor. So unless I drill holes or eliminate the dowel, these rotors won't work on the 91.

I contacted customer service. I was told that Mercedes eventually decided that that dowel was unnecessary and started manufacturing hubs without them; and that, furthermore, it is perfectly fine to remove that dowel.

Anyone know anything about this transition? Specifically, does anyone know when the transition was made? I'm wondering what I'll find on my 92.

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Old 09-17-2013, 06:34 PM
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Assuming we're talking about the same place in Arizona, did the item description note that the locator pin should be removed when you ordered? I see notes indicating rotors with and without locator pin holes today. Pelican doesn't have any such notes even if some rear rotor images show no locator pin hole.

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Old 09-17-2013, 06:41 PM
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Need photos. Sounds like a defective Balo rotor to me. They should all have the extra hole for the dowel/locator pin.

What part number rotors did you buy?


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Old 09-17-2013, 06:48 PM
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Ain't no defect.

Is 2024230012 specific to no locator pin hole rotors?

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Assuming we're talking about the same place in Arizona, did the item description note that the locator pin should be removed when you ordered? I see notes indicating rotors with and without locator pin holes today. Pelican doesn't have any such notes even if some rear rotor images show no locator pin hole.

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I ordered the rotors a while ago....either the note wasn't there at the time or I missed it.
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Need photos. Sounds like a defective Balo rotor to me. They should all have the extra hole for the dowel/locator pin.

What part number rotors did you buy?


2014231212BA was the number.

No, it's not a defect. Apparently at some point MB decided to do away with the locator pin....so there are cars that have no need of the extra hole.
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Old 09-17-2013, 07:24 PM
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Assuming we're talking about the same place in Arizona, did the item description note that the locator pin should be removed when you ordered? I see notes indicating rotors with and without locator pin holes today. Pelican doesn't have any such notes even if some rear rotor images show no locator pin hole.

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As far as I can tell, ALL of the images on Pelican have rotors with only five holes. So it would be very easy unwittingly to buy a rotor that wouldn't fit without modification.
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91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver, 129k mi
98 E300 "Murray", Silver, 128k mi, Stage 2 Rocketchip chip tuned, under son's care, getting EXPENSIVE!

Twelve other MB's owned and sold
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1961 Very Tolerant Wife
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Old 09-18-2013, 09:53 AM
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Created new thread to alert folks to issue. What I've learned about wheel hub locator pins
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Old 09-18-2013, 01:09 PM
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Brembo's technical drawing clearly shows a dowel hole required for the original part number.


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Old 09-18-2013, 01:47 PM
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From what I read in the tech forum, the 202 rotor never had a locating pin hole. Did Balo make the decision to spec the 202 rotor in place of the 201 or did they follow MB? Does the EPC show the 201 part superseded by the 202 part for the 124?

How many concours points do you lose for removing the pin?

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Good catch, Sixto. The original 201- number had the hole, but the EPC shows this was superceded/replaced by the 202- number, which apparently is hole-less.

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Old 09-18-2013, 02:10 PM
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I wonder if the gorillas at Midas and Meineke pound the 202 rotor onto the early 124 hub and push the locating pin into the park brake mechanism.

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