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Old 09-20-2013, 01:12 PM
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Major milestone on the '95 E300D

I'm now sitting at 403 and change.

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Old 09-20-2013, 02:13 PM
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My first 1983 300SD has very close to 400K on it. The steering wheel is smooth on the top half and I need to replace the steering gear box very soon. I have 6 inches - or more, of play in my steering wheel if you measure it by the radius of the steering wheel. I have to hold it to the left when I drive. The front end is fully rebuilt A-Y and aligned at a MB shop. The gearbox is the last piece to go; that is part Z. The car was a complete and utter sheiss box when I bought it. It needed everything, and I mean everything! Except for the engine. It is my daily driver and project car and very close to being restored with modifications. Gen 2 interior, etc.
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:44 PM
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My '78 240D has close to 367,000. Don't know much of its history but it is original engine. Compression is still decent, starts pretty easily in winter. Could use some front suspension components (already did steering, driveshaft and a few other things). Biggest problem is rust.
My '87 300D is currently at 296,000. My daily driver.
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Old 09-21-2013, 01:22 PM
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Mileage is hard to pin down on my '77 300D. For a while, I thought it was at 450K, but the combination of recently obtained MB service records and notes from private repairs suggests that the real chassis mileage is somewhere between 650K and 750K. Holy crap... Just... Holy... Crap...

My steering wheel has no texture left on it anywhere except for the very inside of the wheel at the 6 o'clock position, and the innermost parts of the spokes. I wouldn't believe the mileage was so high if it weren't for the utter lack of texture on the wheel. The original auto shift knob was also worn completely smooth. Even the texture of the dash above and to the sides of the ignition switch is worn pretty much completely off, and that has to be from being touched, not from dangling keys.

Of course, the entire drivetrain has now been replaced, but the mileage still counts for something, I suppose.
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Old 10-05-2013, 04:22 PM
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Doktor Bert has 1.3 million (rebuilt at 1.25 million, I believe). layback40 has 800k on a parts car... a member here replaced his engine at 750k (750KMILZ, I believe)... I have 211k on mine.
Yes,

Our 1978 300SD went 1,244,000 (which we later documented with paperwork from the original owner) before rebuilding the 617.950 in June of 2005. The engine was very tired, as one would expect, but it was still running when overhauled.

The odometer just rolled up 344,000 yesterday, so the 'new' engine now has 100,000 miles on it.

I recently set the valves and checked the chain for stretch and the cam phasing was unchanged. The tensioner shoes/guides look decent too, as do the cam lobes.

No plans to open it up again just yet...
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Old 10-05-2013, 04:29 PM
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Ok... Dr Bert certainly has the record!!
but my newly acquired 87 190D 2.5turbo has 501550ish and feels new...
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"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

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1987 300TD
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:16 AM
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297,700 on my 1995 E300 Diesel--

The NA 606s (95-97) were berated for not being torquey enough, but after seeing the long term effect of heat and pressure of a turbo, especially in the 602/603 powered cars i've owned,

I'll take the low cost reliability and longevity over the loss of torque.
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:32 AM
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297,700 on my 1995 E300 Diesel--

The NA 606s (95-97) were berated for not being torquey enough, but after seeing the long term effect of heat and pressure of a turbo, especially in the 602/603 powered cars i've owned,

I'll take the low cost reliability and longevity over the loss of torque.
seriously?

so... 501800 miles on the long term effects of heat and pressure so far... what should I be looking out for?
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"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:53 AM
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seriously?

so... 501800 miles on the long term effects of heat and pressure so far... what should I be looking out for?
On what, a tractor trailer truck?

The head has never been off the 606 and it burns no oil, and runs like new; unlike both of my 602/603 (both had heads rememoved) turbo variants that clearly bore the brunt of being iron block/aluminium head design, that didn't hold up, unlike the 617s and such.

I'm not going to parse words over a one off snarky example, there are hundreds of post in here of 60x turbo engines that needed head gaskets or heads long before their 61x predecessors, and I'm QUITE sure, long before any 605/606 N/A success will experience.
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1995 E300-Diesel-133.5K--THE CAR IS BLUE
1986 300SL--97.5K (European) AND WHITE. Back in Europe!
1991 190E 2.3-73K California Perfect.--WHITE
1995 E320-Wagon-159K--WHITE (recently scrapped)
1987 300D Turbo-213K--WHITE
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Old 10-06-2013, 11:08 AM
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On what, a tractor trailer truck?

The head has never been off the 606 and it burns no oil, and runs like new; unlike both of my 602/603 (both had heads rememoved) turbo variants that clearly bore the brunt of being iron block/aluminium head design, that didn't hold up, unlike the 617s and such.

I'm not going to parse words over a one off snarky example, there are hundreds of post in here of 60x turbo engines that needed head gaskets or heads long before their 61x predecessors, and I'm QUITE sure, long before any 605/606 N/A success will experience.
......
calm down... no reason to get nasty!

you have a good point about the turbo cars blowing headgaskets and such...
but as long as the cooling system remains complete, and it's maintained well I'm sure the turbo's can last plenty long. the 603's #14 head certainly has some negatives, but again as long as the cooling system is maintained it should remain intact.

I'm sure your NA 606 will last a great long time, but the high RPMs needed for speeds driven today will likely take their toll on the engine as badly as the turbo does to theirs...

I've not had the pleasure of working on the NA 606 much, I've driven a few, and came close to buying one once... there is not a lot on this forum with repairs of them, so you do have a good point on it's durability!

biggest complaint on them is the wiring harness, and the glow plug fiasco ranks up there as well, but they appear minor compared to needing new rods, or needing a replacement head / headgasket!

the High Miles on my W201 are not certified or anything, multiple owners, and obvious parts swapped from other cars... but the service book is valid up over 300K... i wish the following owners had documented their services... oh well, the NEXT 500K will be WELL documented!
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 10-06-2013, 11:14 AM
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Yes,

Our 1978 300SD went 1,244,000 (which we later documented with paperwork from the original owner) before rebuilding the 617.950 in June of 2005. The engine was very tired, as one would expect, but it was still running when overhauled.

The odometer just rolled up 344,000 yesterday, so the 'new' engine now has 100,000 miles on it.

I recently set the valves and checked the chain for stretch and the cam phasing was unchanged. The tensioner shoes/guides look decent too, as do the cam lobes.

No plans to open it up again just yet...
As many, if not most of us here on the forum purchased our cars used from MULTIPLE previous owners. I've got to wonder how many of our cars are actually over 500K... It's SOOOOO easy to change the odo on our cars, and most used car salesmen KNOW that over 300K is a scary thing for buyers... and the MB holds up SOOOO well to high mileage. if my W201 190D is any indication, the motor should last several hundred thousand miles more... I'm willing to bet huge amounts of money that most of our cars do not reflect anywhere near accurate miles...
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

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Old 10-06-2013, 12:53 PM
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My 300TD could be anywhere in the 2's or 3's in my best guess. When I got it, it had a broken odo, that was stuck on 187k. However the speedo in the car when I got it was from a gasser as determined by the part number. So there is no telling how many miles were on it. Based on wear of suspension components and the total lack of info on CarFax or records I have to say I'm in the high 2's to low 3's.

Fortunately SC does not care about odo readings after 10 years, so my title is branded EXEMPT and I had no hassles at the DMV with the odometer reading when I went to title it.

No doubt on my W210, the computer runs the odometer and it's at 205k. That title has no EXEMPT brand since the mileage is verifiable.
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Old 10-06-2013, 02:05 PM
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'98 E300 with 270,3xx. Just replaced passenger side tail lamp assembly. Going to replace brake switch this afternoon to see if that turns off the BAS ASR light. And, the new valance was received this week. May try to get that on as well.
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you have a good point about the turbo cars blowing headgaskets and such...
but as long as the cooling system remains complete, and it's maintained well I'm sure the turbo's can last plenty long. the 603's #14 head certainly has some negatives, but again as long as the cooling system is maintained it should remain intact.

I'm sure your NA 606 will last a great long time, but the high RPMs needed for speeds driven today will likely take their toll on the engine as badly as the turbo does to theirs...

I've not had the pleasure of working on the NA 606 much, I've driven a few, and came close to buying one once... there is not a lot on this forum with repairs of them, so you do have a good point on it's durability!

biggest complaint on them is the wiring harness, and the glow plug fiasco ranks up there as well, but they appear minor compared to needing new rods, or needing a replacement head / headgasket!

the High Miles on my W201 are not certified or anything, multiple owners, and obvious parts swapped from other cars... but the service book is valid up over 300K... i wish the following owners had documented their services... oh well, the NEXT 500K will be WELL documented!

I'm not impressed with the W124 cooling for any of the 602,603 or 606 diesel installs, and I would agree, is a contributing factor in premature failures of heads and gaskets, irrespective of the turbo. I do miss how quickly my turbo engines heated up in the winter in Minnesota. 5 minutes was always enough for warm air, the 606 takes a fair bit of time.

I will be curious to watch the threads as the years pass as the 98-99 606 turbo W210s age and if they see greater gasket and head issues than the 95-97 lot.

The wiring harness issues is a mid-90's cluster on all 124s, I changed both on my 104 and 606 powered cars.

I thoroughly agree the glow plugs on the 606 are a disaster, I have removed, reamed/thread chased, cleaned and reinstalled all 6 with Würth CU "wiener sloggen" as my friend likes to call it, with no further seizing issues. My 642 has one I can't quite free and I'm afraid to push any further. The good news there is the CDIs doesn't need the GPs to start smoothly.
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Under new management:
2005 E320 CDI--140K--WHITE
1995 E300-Diesel-133.5K--THE CAR IS BLUE
1986 300SL--97.5K (European) AND WHITE. Back in Europe!
1991 190E 2.3-73K California Perfect.--WHITE
1995 E320-Wagon-159K--WHITE (recently scrapped)
1987 300D Turbo-213K--WHITE
1987 190D 2.5 Turbo-288K--WHITE
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My Black 82 300TD had 460k on it, ran like new.

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