Very sobering. Have a friend whose 606 died at the same mileage (in his case, it was IP). Makes me wonder whether my 95 with 306k is a ticking time bomb! But Chris W, with 405k and counting, gives me reason for hope!

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14 E250 Bluetec "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 153k miles
06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 171k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU
91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver, 142k mi, wastegate conversion

19 Honda CR-V EX 61k mi
Fourteen other MB's owned and sold
1961 Very Tolerant Wife

I've owned this car for just over a year. the person who owned it was a diesel mechanic, he did the glow plugs (actually got the old ones) and had been problem free. MBZ maintained for about 2 years after the warranty went. Newer trans installed after the other one went plotz. I've put 8K miles on it after I had some small minor things done with it.. Plastic parts break etc with age. I do believe the 606 is a good engine, I dont know what let go yet, the repair shop I called (they know me...) and they said they'll have it into the shop around lunch time... when I get the engine back (I hope I dont have to replace the engine) I'll tear it down and see what went Kerflooey. Post a lot of pictures, and go through a rebuild process if I need to. I'll see it again this afternoon. I have to go down there and pick up me mums wheel chair etc from the car.

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1987 300TD 311,000M Stolen. Presumed destroyed

I'll pull it and see, I Dont think these pumps are prone to killing the engine on the 606 are they? I had the one replaced on my 603 because I had the old style

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1987 300TD 311,000M Stolen. Presumed destroyed

Yes...

ALL VACUUM PUMPS THAT ARE DRIVEN BY THE TIMING CHAIN CAN FAIL AND DESTROY THE ENGINE!!!

some are less prone to minor wear grenading, but ALL vacuum pumps can destroy the motor with excess wear.
PERIOD!!!

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

The '98-up 606 has a different design vacuum pump and is much less prone to spilling its guts into the timing case. I'm not saying that it is impossible, just that it's less likely. OTOH, the timing chain (do we know its age/miles?) could fail for some reason unrelated to the vacuum pump and that would cause all sorts of problems.

Jeremy

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"Buster" in the '95

Our all-Diesel family
1996 E300D (W210) . .338,000 miles Wife's car
2005 E320 CDI . . 113,000 miles My car
Santa Rosa population 176,762 (2022)
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . 627,762
"Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz."
-- Janis Joplin, October 1, 1970

This leads me to believe it is not the timing chain.

Time will tell. I'll be going down there in about 45 minutes.. I hope it's just a few injectors... I really do

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1987 300TD 311,000M Stolen. Presumed destroyed

Watching for pics.

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1995 E300 Weiss
#1987 300D Sturmmachine
#1991 300D Nearly Perfect
#1994 E320 Cabriolet
#1995 E320 Touring
#1985 300D Sedan
OBK #42

Tragically it is not just a few injectors in my opinion. Nor anything all that simple. Minumin damage would be some bent valves I expect. Will not idle is not that great a scenario after what transpired. Lucky it would still start though. Although I would have investigated before trying to restart.

Another engine at that milage is not the end of the world and can be cheaper overall than extensive repairs.

I of course hope I am wrong. I would like to be wrong in a case like this. Fortunately in some cases in life I am.

might have lucked out. they got the car to run.... I'm not sure what they did. but I told them the cicumstances on how to force the issue once again and as I left it was merrily fogging the general area for mosquitos again so I assume they got it to do whatever it did before.... I dont know. I will report back again

as a side note, the alternator in my borrowed ride took a crap on me... when it rains it pours..

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1987 300TD 311,000M Stolen. Presumed destroyed

No luck. Engine is DOA. No compression on 4/6 CYL. Dont know the exact cause. will do an autopsy on the block when I get a replacement unit.

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1987 300TD 311,000M Stolen. Presumed destroyed

STOP STARTING THE CAR!!!

you need to pull the head BEFORE you take out a piston!!!

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

oh...

Where are the PICS???

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

I am going to guess it is timing chain or timing chain tensioner related.

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Jim

If it was the timing chain, I don't think they would be able to restart the vehicle...