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Old 10-20-2013, 06:55 AM
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what about the 95 e300d Vstech found? I know the 95 is non turbo.

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Old 10-20-2013, 08:26 AM
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Just make it a turbo!
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what about the 95 e300d Vstech found? I know the 95 is non turbo.
What about it? They are completely different engines, and they are not interchangeable.

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Old 10-20-2013, 11:17 AM
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What exactly is broken in the engine? Did you pull the valve cover? You might 'only' need a cylinder head or front cover.

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Not too sure, We know there is no compression in 4/6 cyl, and massive amounts of blowby whatever happened the damage is internal and quite severe. Does anyone have a cutaway of this engine? I may try my hand at rebuilding it.. I'd like to see what I'm up against. if I fail it's still a crap engine anyways.
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Old 10-20-2013, 11:30 AM
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what about the 95 e300d Vstech found? I know the 95 is non turbo.
While it's a good idea, it wont work, The only engines that will work come from 98 and 99 Series E300's. Anything different you'd have to try and convert and make it work with systems it was not designed for, which is a whole lot of tom foolery I dont care to do. a direct swap would be easier
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May or may not be too bad in there. Bent or damaged valves suspected. Blowing some air into those two cylinders after manipulation of the pistons into location might help to verify.

There is one serious issue though. No sense repairing or replacing the engine until whatever caused the serious downshift on the highway is located. Otherwise a repeat of it is a possibility.
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Old 10-20-2013, 04:39 PM
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...No sense repairing or replacing the engine until whatever caused the serious downshift on the highway is located. Otherwise a repeat of it is a possibility.
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Old 10-20-2013, 06:15 PM
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What about it? They are completely different engines, and they are not interchangeable.

Not if hes got the old one handy.
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Not if hes got the old one handy.
There are enough differences that while it's possible, it would be extremely unwise. Turbo-ing a non-turbo motor is a great way to have a short-lived motor. Just put the right motor in, or buy a $500 junker to drive if you can't afford to fix it right.

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Old 10-20-2013, 08:51 PM
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What's different in a 606? Afaik they are the same valves cans crank and oil squirters.
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I can't make time in the PO's calendar but I would pull the head ASAP for a sense of the damage. If the pistons and cylinder walls are good, PGAuto has a head for $1000. A 606 is daunting if it's the first head swap you ever do but it's less daunting than an engine swap. I might even risk a NA 606 head in a turbo application if it's a bolt on deal.

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Old 10-20-2013, 10:40 PM
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Not too sure, We know there is no compression in 4/6 cyl, and massive amounts of blowby whatever happened the damage is internal and quite severe. Does anyone have a cutaway of this engine? I may try my hand at rebuilding it.. I'd like to see what I'm up against. if I fail it's still a crap engine anyways.
What did the car cost you in the first place, and how much over that amount have you spent on it thus far since buying?

I think you bought a car similar to what engatwork bought - one that's been completely neglected through non-maintenance before you bought it. Nothing wrong with a "project-car," but you have to ask yourself how much time and MORE money you want to pour in it at this point.

What's it's condition, anyway? Pictures?
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Old 10-20-2013, 10:47 PM
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What exactly is broken in the engine? Did you pull the valve cover? You might 'only' need a cylinder head or front cover.

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Without futzing around, the car needs a 'long-block.' BTDT......dropping a new, remanufactured LB in, cures most everything......

IF the guy needs/ed it for primary transportation, he could make an easy decision. I think he's got several cars, so this is probably an option car to keep or delete.
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I've got a total of about $7k in the 05 E320 wagon now and it has turned out to be a great car that does not seem to use oil.

I'm wondering if the long block for the 95 E300 is the same as the long block in the 99 model.

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