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Old 10-26-2013, 07:26 PM
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OK. Looks like a mechanical "acid" dip of a car body to reduce weight.

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Old 10-27-2013, 07:19 AM
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Well bear in mind it is a work in progress

Nice job and 6 grams from one side is a good result. If you can get 4 from the other pin boss then anything else you shave will be heading to perfection.
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Old 10-27-2013, 08:25 AM
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Nice job and 6 grams from one side is a good result. If you can get 4 from the other pin boss then anything else you shave will be heading to perfection.
I'm gonna try and get a few more grams out of that side - no guts no glory. This metal removal is so tedious you have plenty of time to pluck up some extra courage!
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:55 PM
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This metal removal is so tedious you have plenty of time to pluck up some extra courage!
That's funny because it's true.

It looks like some of the pin bosses are tapered and some are straight. It even looks like one piston has a straight side and a tapered side. Is that an illusion?

Out of curiousity, is the wide "casting line" on the bottom of the crown raised or lower than the rest of the surrounding area?

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Smoothing up is important. Leave no sharp edges which could start a stress fracture.
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Old 10-28-2013, 03:57 AM
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That's funny because it's true.

It looks like some of the pin bosses are tapered and some are straight. It even looks like one piston has a straight side and a tapered side. Is that an illusion?

Out of curiousity, is the wide "casting line" on the bottom of the crown raised or lower than the rest of the surrounding area?

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The inside of the casting is actually quite uneven - the sides of the pin bosses are indeed at weird angles. The casting line is higher than the crown in the picture - it is space for the rings.
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:41 PM
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The inside of the casting is actually quite uneven - the sides of the pin bosses are indeed at weird angles. The casting line is higher than the crown in the picture - it is space for the rings.
no, he's talking about the parting line between the two halves of the piston between the pin bosses on the crown.
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no, he's talking about the parting line between the two halves of the piston between the pin bosses on the crown.
Oh right - that's lower
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Old 11-09-2013, 12:18 PM
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Still at it!

I've been busy with other stuff recently so the problem isn't quite resolved yet.

The state of play at the moment is that I've got three pistons quite close in weight to each other - 469.4 (lightest as bought with out rings), 469.7 (modified 2nd lightest) and 471.9 (heaviest as bought).

The (new) heaviest piston that is awaiting the last bit of work is 488.2 grams

I'm going to try and get them all to be 469.X grams

(These weights are all without piston rings and pins fitted - so that's why there are different numbers from earlier on in the thread)
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Well at last after hours and hours of work I have four pistons with a difference in weight of one gram.

I'm not ever going to attempt this job with out a milling machine again!
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Old 11-11-2013, 02:56 PM
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How many hours? I'd have to say not many folks would have the patience to do this job!
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How many hours? I'd have to say not many folks would have the patience to do this job!
Many many more than I care to remember. It wouldn't surprise me if I had spent 20 hours on this job. Totally ridiculous - about half the time was spent using the wrong tools and working out which will work and which ones won't - a quarter of the time was spent flipping out and stressing out about "being careful".

It is a little bit like the first time you take out an engine - the second time goes quicker - and by the third time you can compete with the lads at the breakers yard...

...Today within three hours I lightened the last of the heavy pistons - that included a trip to the shop (took about 50 minutes) to go and buy yet another dremmel cutting tool.

I reckon I spent about 50 euros in dremmel cutting tools and those arse bucket little rolls of sand paper - next time milling machine - next time pay someone else to do it - it is a 30 minute job if that with the correct tools.

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Old 11-11-2013, 03:22 PM
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Glad you got it worked out though. I have ~2 hours into my lightweight vacuum pump plate. Once I got started I couldn't stop
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Old 11-11-2013, 03:30 PM
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Glad you got it worked out though. I have ~2 hours into my lightweight vacuum pump plate. Once I got started I couldn't stop
Have you got a link for your project?

(I guess you're on STD?)
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:53 AM
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Stretch, it has been well worth doing what you did.

There is nothing worse than a doubt if you find the end result was to have a vibration. At least you know it wouldn't be caused by piston weight variation.
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:56 AM
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Stretch, it has been well worth doing what you did.

There is nothing worse than a doubt if you find the end result was to have a vibration. At least you know it wouldn't be caused by piston weight variation.
Thanks for the vote of confidence - I hope I haven't cocked it all up and taken out too much strength. Still this is the only way to learn!

Here's my final configuration



I think I'll swap the combined set in cylinder 3 with cylinder 4 so that the heaviest is next to the flywheel.

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