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Old 09-06-2014, 01:20 AM
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I've done this job for this problem , oh, about 100 or so times. 99% of the time it's a worn ignition tumbler. If I were you I would put a new lock in with a new key before tearing into anything else. It's the cheapest and easiest thing t.o try first. It takes about 1 minute
Sounds like a plan, but I can't seem to get the lock tumbler out. I have used bailing wire, a pin, and the tip of a nail, but the lock cylinder won't pop out. I have also tried tapping the nail with a hammer, but that hasn't seemed to make a difference. I feel like it should be easier than this. . .
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Old 09-06-2014, 06:38 AM
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I think a paper clip is what is needed to unlock it. The ignition lock can also be cut off. I had my indie do this with the 300K plus 240 I had. I did not feel the need for the lock and it was causing trouble and it was a permanent, pretty easy fix.
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I'm reviving this thread, as I still haven't dealt with this. ....
AFTER all those people say ' DEAL WITH THIS NOW BEFORE IT GETS WORSE '...... ten months later you have not...

you should read the horror stories in the archives about people who let it go until it actually broke....
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I think a paper clip is what is needed to unlock it. The ignition lock can also be cut off. I had my indie do this with the 300K plus 240 I had. I did not feel the need for the lock and it was causing trouble and it was a permanent, pretty easy fix.
Right. Anything about 4 inches long that is stout with the diameter of a paper clip will work. With the key on the position 2 mark you will depress and feel the spring loaded hole then unscrew the black collar and just pull out the whole tumbler.
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Old 09-06-2014, 12:50 PM
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had to a search on another site to find the part # as pelican didn`t show this in their catalog.

Searched the # here and this is what now shows from Pelican.


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Valeo is good @ $120.25 but the dealer (MBZ) price is $127.25. not too bad.

The site I got the # shows a price of $157.19. and the dealer beats that.


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Old 09-06-2014, 12:51 PM
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AFTER all those people say ' DEAL WITH THIS NOW BEFORE IT GETS WORSE '...... ten months later you have not...

you should read the horror stories in the archives about people who let it go until it actually broke....
I have been VERY careful for the last 10 months not to lock the steering wheel. I didn't say it has been a good strategy, but it has worked, so far.
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Old 09-06-2014, 12:54 PM
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Right. Anything about 4 inches long that is stout with the diameter of a paper clip will work. With the key on the position 2 mark you will depress and feel the spring loaded hole then unscrew the black collar and just pull out the whole tumbler.
Nothing happens when I insert a nail, paper clip, wire in the hole. It feels like I'm hitting a wall. (Key in accessory position.) I have also tried turning the collar with needle-nose pliers while pushing on the nail in the hole. I'm beginning to wonder if it's jammed/stuck/old and maybe I need to replace the whole assembly.
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had to a search on another site to find the part # as pelican didn`t show this in their catalog.

Searched the # here and this is what now shows from Pelican.


Pelican Parts - European Automotive Parts and Accessories - Porsche BMW Mercedes Volkswagen Audi Saab Volvo MINI


Valeo is good @ $120.25 but the dealer (MBZ) price is $127.25. not too bad.

The site I got the # shows a price of $157.19. and the dealer beats that.


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Excellent. That seems like a pretty good price for an MB part.
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I have been VERY careful for the last 10 months not to lock the steering wheel. I didn't say it has been a good strategy, but it has worked, so far.
I am glad... what has to be done if you can not get it to the position where you can use the pin... nightmares described in the archives...
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Old 09-06-2014, 07:31 PM
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OK - Finally got the lock cylinder out, but I can't seem to remove the ignition switch from the steering column. I removed the bolt attached to the U-clamp, but something is still hanging up. But, on the bright side, the steering wheel no longer locks
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Have you looked in the archives ? I am pretty sure all this is covered well there....
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Old 09-06-2014, 07:59 PM
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OK - Finally got the lock cylinder out, but I can't seem to remove the ignition switch from the steering column. I removed the bolt attached to the U-clamp, but something is still hanging up. But, on the bright side, the steering wheel no longer locks
Never mind. I found the button that needs to be pushed. It is all apart!

Now to order a new switch and lock cylinder.

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while it is all apart i think you have the option to disable the wheel lock if desired.
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Just went to the dealer to order a new tumbler. They want $230, which is a lot more than the ~$60 mentioned above. I choked and walked out. Time for Plan B...maybe a locksmith rebuild...
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Old 09-08-2014, 06:27 PM
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Just went to the dealer to order a new tumbler. They want $230, which is a lot more than the ~$60 mentioned above. I choked and walked out. Time for Plan B...maybe a locksmith rebuild...
The tumbler has a roll pin you drill out after which you can disassemble. Be careful you do not lose any of the leaves and springs! With a file you can sand down the leaves that are sticking up too high and have a good tumbler again. You can use a finishing nail to replace the roll pin if you can't find a replacement
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