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Old 11-02-2013, 11:49 PM
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240D front wheel bearing grease caps

OK, I know this is silly... but how hard should it be to put the grease cap on the front wheel hub? I just put in new bearings, and the final step is, of course, installing the grease cap. I've beat on it (gently) with a rubber hammer, to no avail. Same problem on both sides, by the way. I don't think that I've overfilled it; I put grease in the cap up to the level of the crease that runs around the circumference. I suppose it could hydro-lock if it was overfilled, and maybe I should just remove some grease and see if it goes on better then.

I guess worst case I will clean up the old grease caps and see if they will go on.

Thanks for your advice.

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Old 11-03-2013, 12:04 AM
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OK, I know this is silly... but how hard should it be to put the grease cap on the front wheel hub? I just put in new bearings, and the final step is, of course, installing the grease cap. I've beat on it (gently) with a rubber hammer, to no avail. Same problem on both sides, by the way. I don't think that I've overfilled it; I put grease in the cap up to the level of the crease that runs around the circumference. I suppose it could hydro-lock if it was overfilled, and maybe I should just remove some grease and see if it goes on better then.

I guess worst case I will clean up the old grease caps and see if they will go on.

Thanks for your advice.

Kurt
Is there a reason you're not using the old ones to begin with?
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Old 11-03-2013, 12:05 AM
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Hey Kurt, Coming up for air from all that rain up there?

Sounds like too much grease in the cup. Kind of like air being compressed.


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Old 11-03-2013, 12:53 AM
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Is there a reason you're not using the old ones to begin with?
No special reason, other than the wheel bearing kit came with new ones

Charlie, I think that you're right... I've probably got too much grease in the system. I was pretty generous with the amount I put in the hub, so there isn't much compressible air anywhere.

By the way, I used the magnetic mount and the dial indicator from Harbor Freight to set the axial play. What a joy compared to the old tighten it up/back it off and pray method I used 20 years ago.

Kurt

PS Charlie: actually it's been a weird and mostly dry fall season here. We had a week of heavy rain in September, and I thought uh-oh, early winter... but then we got weeks of sunshine, far beyond the usual October 15th start of rain. I can't complain; the extra days of sun allowed me to put new siding on another wall of my shop, in addition to little projects like the wheel bearing / brake job on the 240D. The 240D has always had poor braking since I bought it, and I'm really looking forward to GOOD brakes! I found that one of the caliper pistons wasn't even really moving on the right side; the car wasn't really pulling to the right that I noticed, which probably means that there was a compensating frozen piston on the left :0
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Old 11-03-2013, 01:35 PM
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There was too much grease in the cup! I cut it down by half, and was then able to get the cap on. D'oh!

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There is a spec for the amount of grease. Too much or too little can cause issues. Sounds like the cups were trying to tell you something.
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Old 11-03-2013, 10:04 PM
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There was too much grease in the cup! I cut it down by half, and was then able to get the cap on. D'oh!

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Grease packing wheel bearings the right way

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Old 11-03-2013, 10:25 PM
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yup... nowhere on any instruction manual I've ever read are there instructions that say to pack the cap with more than a light coat of grease...
how much grease did you put in the bearings themselves? how much did you put in the hub? on the spindle?
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:37 AM
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I know I should really get a factory service manual... But for now I have the Haynes manual (and a couple good friends on speed dial - jt20 and charmalu, are you there?). The Haynes manual says to fill with grease up to the crease in the cap - and now I know that's nonsense!

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Iam here.

I have used too much grease too in the past, this isn`t one of those times when a little is good, a little more is better.

Kurt, you using the Digital gauge or the analog Dial indicator?


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Old 11-04-2013, 01:59 AM
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The analog one.

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Old 11-04-2013, 10:22 AM
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I bought the Analog one, then a few months later HF had a killer sale on the digital one, along with the magnetic gizmo to hold it.
Still haven`t used it yet, I do have a brake job and bearing packing coming up.

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1) Not much power
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3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

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IIRC the spec is for about 65g per wheel. I think it was 15g in the bearing and 60g in the cap. The 150g tube from Mercedes makes it pretty easy to get it close.
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:56 AM
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isn't it odd that the radio static suppression clip would be jammed into all that grease?
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:31 PM
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That grounding clip is not just for RF noise suppression on the radio, it's for bearing preservation.

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The electrostatic discharge will eat the bearings if it is not dissipated by the grounding clip.

To the OP - the factory manuals are available online at startekinfo.com. Click workshop resources on the left side, and then page through until you find the manuals for the 123 chassis.

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