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Old 11-06-2013, 01:37 PM
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The SKF inner seals had to be driven in with a wooden drift.

They would not seat, so extra hammer blows on the drift.

Yeah, the spring deformed, tore out, garbage.

Set me back a few days.

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Well you may be right, national is a U.S. Co.

Custom Bearings and Bearing Components Manufacturer: National Bearings Company

I just know when I ordered some bearings, the only one`s I could find were National, and made in China. this was from CARQUEST for a Nissan 5-spd trans, and $87.
Finally found Japanese made Natchie @ www.vxp.com for $33 with shipping.
They carry china made as well.

Napa $27 and Carquest $26 for a Chicom pilot bearing. think these are $7 on Pelican.

It really get`s me tight jawed when I have to pay top dollar for a bearing made in another country because they can be made cheaper.

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Old 11-06-2013, 05:17 PM
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Really need to do my front brakes, and rotors. While I have the hubs/rotors out I would like to replace the inner and outer wheel bearings.

I cannot afford the 110$ per side for Genuine MB but can probably afford the next best option.

Which manufacturer is best. Needs to be Japanese, or real german, not Chinese german.

Which tool would be best for removing the races? I was gonna pick up a punch and chisel set.

Any good threads on this procedure? For a 1979 240D btw
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Concerning Bearings what I do is I look at the Numbers on the Origional Bearings and then I go shopping on eBay for them. I try to find the exact same bearing or one by another Maker that is the same quality. Looking for USA, Japan or German Bearing.
I just did this on My Chevy Van Differential. I got exactly the same Torrintgton and Timken Bearings Made in the USA for 1/2 the cost at other places.
If you are careful you can knock out the Inner Bearing Races with a Steel Punch.
However, a Brass Punch/Drift is Ideal.
Aluminum works but of course does not take the Beating Steel or Brass Dies

The Inner races also have their own Number on them.

What you have to beware of is that all of the Bearing companies sell Made In China Bearings. Timken as an example has at least 3 grades of bearings and one of them is going to be made in China.

Also. In the case of My Pinion Bearing Race. I went to the Bearing Makers site and looked up what number the Race was. It takes a while to look through but they have catalogs with that info and the bearing specs.
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Old 11-06-2013, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by uneasysunday View Post
Really need to do my front brakes, and rotors. While I have the hubs/rotors out I would like to replace the inner and outer wheel bearings.

I cannot afford the 110$ per side for Genuine MB but can probably afford the next best option.

Which manufacturer is best. Needs to be Japanese, or real german, not Chinese german.

Which tool would be best for removing the races? I was gonna pick up a punch and chisel set.

Any good threads on this procedure? For a 1979 240D btw
Thanks in advance
I cannot afford the 110$ per side for Genuine MB but can probably afford the next best option.

Which manufacturer is best. Needs to be Japanese, or real german, not Chinese german.

Which tool would be best for removing the races? I was gonna pick up a punch and chisel set.

Any good threads on this procedure? For a 1979 240D btw
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Concerning Bearings what I do is I look at the Numbers on the Origional Bearings and then I go shopping on eBay for them. I try to find the exact same bearing or one by another Maker that is the same quality. Looking for USA, Japan or German Bearing.
I just did this on My Chevy Van Differential. I got exactly the same Torrintgton and Timken Bearings Made in the USA for 1/2 the cost at other places.
If you are careful you can knock out the Inner Bearing Races with a Steel Punch.
However, a Brass Punch/Drift is Ideal.
Aluminum works but of course does not take the Beating Steel or Brass Dies

The Inner races also have their own Number on them.

What you have to beware of is that all of the Bearing companies sell Made In China Bearings. Timken as an example has at least 3 grades of bearings and one of them is going to be made in China.

Also. In the case of My Pinion Bearing Race. I went to the Bearing Makesrs site and looked up what number the Race was. It takes a while to look through but they have catalogs with that info and the bearing specs.
If your old Bearings look good there is no reason not to reuse them if you want to.
I overheated the grease in My front wheel Hubs by not using a Dial Indicator to adjust the End Play. Since I started using the Dial Indicator I have had no issues at all.
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Old 11-06-2013, 05:27 PM
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Really need to do my front brakes, and rotors. While I have the hubs/rotors out I would like to replace the inner and outer wheel bearings.

I cannot afford the 110$ per side for Genuine MB but can probably afford the next best option.

Which manufacturer is best. Needs to be Japanese, or real german, not Chinese german.

Which tool would be best for removing the races? I was gonna pick up a punch and chisel set.

Any good threads on this procedure? For a 1979 240D btw
Thanks in advance
SKF , FAG, Timken, National.

I like and use a lot of FAG and Timken bearings.

Nothing against other brands, my local suppliers always have those two on the shelf.

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Old 11-06-2013, 06:44 PM
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Not the National ( By Federal Mogul ) I was referencing , look at this one National Brand Home Page
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Old 11-06-2013, 06:49 PM
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The SKF inner seals had to be driven in with a wooden drift.

They would not seat, so extra hammer blows on the drift.

Yeah, the spring deformed, tore out, garbage.

Set me back a few days.

This isn't the fault of the seal, it is an installer error.

Garter springs can pop out of the groove when installed by impact, pressing seals in is a better method. If hammering can't be avoided, pack the garter spring area with grease.

Also, using a small diameter drift to go round and round the seal will distort it, use a flat object larger than the seal OD.
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Old 11-06-2013, 07:18 PM
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Okay, yet I have installed other manufacturers inner seals in the same manner successfully.

IIRC, the drift was a 2x4.
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It is more of a case where you got away with other seal installs not dislodging the garter spring. Likely because the press fit was less so impact was less. Another method that works is a seal installer that holds the seal lip on a shaft to keep tension on the spring.

www.skf.com/files/774717.pdf

Chapter 9 pages 79 / 80 Hammer Damage

Somewhere on our site someone was rebuilding a rear diff and had issues with dislodging axle shaft seal springs so this sometimes occurs.
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:37 PM
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Lucky, perhaps.

Let me quote Richard Petty, "I'd rather be lucky than good."

Yet when a seal won't seat, what is one to do?

The FSM doesn't indicate any special install tool.

Bottom line, I refuse to use any SKF product.

All others work fine.

Of course, this is just my opinion.

Hopefully, I can spare others difficulty.
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:06 PM
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FYI: I took my hubs to the local NAPA dealer here in Portland, and they were kind enough to press out all four races and install the new ones for $20! At that price I would not even consider fooling around with a hammer and punch.

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When I worked as a Mechanic if you brought those Hubs to Our Shop I would have used a Hammer and a Brass Punch to remove and Install the Bearing Races.

And, yes Our Shop had a Hydraulic Press (I have one at Home also).

What our Shop did not have was a whole bunch of different sized Tools that fit ever bearing race that might be brought in.

Even if NAPA had the correct Tool install the Bearing Races; all of the Manuals I have see show pounding inner Races in in any way.
sometimes you can find a nice thick Washer or grind down the edges to reduce the OD of the Washer and use that to drive races in. And, and if you have large Sockets they often are good for driving things in place.

Just adding this. The Seals also have the Makers Name and number on the most of the time. If you can see that right it down before you remove the Seal as removing the Seal often obliterates the Numbers.
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Timkens on the other, the small bearing is made in the USA, the large one in France.
Using these part numbers, find a LM48548 bearing specification. It states 34.925mm when 21.45mm is what the FAG is and fits correctly on the 22mm spindle. If these fit fine, which is most likely the case, then the website is incorrect.
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Not sure where the measurement was gotten...

But there are two sizes to the bearing...

I'd and od
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Not sure where the measurement was gotten...

But there are two sizes to the bearing...

I.D. and o.d.
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Not sure where the measurement was gotten...

But there are two sizes to the bearing...

I.D. and o.d.
John, as I though I clearly stated, from Timken themselves; the link is part of the sentence.

Which Mercedes has a wheel bearing of 22mm outer diameter? Goodness, that probably be about a 10 or 12 spindle.

The spindler outer diameter is about 22mm and the correct bearing (this case using a used FAG German) is 21.45mm inner diameter.

Didn't consider the outer as looked correct and have yet to have an issue.

All I was asking was if LM48548 fits.

If it does fit, then why do the specifications matter?

Also, if does fit, then there are only two cone options, the one chosen is apparently the most common and by my rough measurement (as the race is still in the hub) 65mm outer diameter is correct.

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