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Mölyapina 11-11-2013 08:16 AM

Specs wanted: W126 300SD weight distribution and GVW or curb weight
 
Having trouble finding these. Does someone either have them or have a suggestion as to where I can find them?

t walgamuth 11-11-2013 08:34 AM

What year and model? Early ones are around 3650 later ones around 4000 long wheelbase somewhat heavier. They don't weigh much if any more than a 123 with similar equipment.

Mölyapina 11-11-2013 08:36 AM

1982 300SD. I just found the weight, too... :). Any idea on where I could find the weight distribution?

oldsinner111 11-11-2013 08:44 AM

try wikapedia maybe or search weight distribution for w126 cars

t walgamuth 11-11-2013 08:45 AM

I believe you will find It very near 5050.

vstech 11-11-2013 08:50 AM

based on the gas flap, 28psi front, 30 rear, I'd bet it's more like 48/52... maybe 42/58, based on vehicle anticipation of stopping force throwing weight forward, I'd say.

american vehicles with poor weight distribution have 58/42 and their tires are often 32/28...

pmckechnie 11-11-2013 08:52 AM

On my 84 500SEL it is on the B pillar inside the drivers door.

Paul

t walgamuth 11-11-2013 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by vstech (Post 3236795)
based on the gas flap, 28psi front, 30 rear, I'd bet it's more like 48/52... maybe 42/58, based on vehicle anticipation of stopping force throwing weight forward, I'd say.

american vehicles with poor weight distribution have 58/42 and their tires are often 32/28...

Yes, with adults in all the seats and some luggage in the trunk. With just a driver I imagine its a little heavier in front.

1project2many 11-11-2013 11:18 AM

I might have this information. I purchased a large database from NHTSA. It includes GVW, weight distribution, front/rear brake bias, and plenty of other "stuff." I'll check tonight when I get home and see if the W126 is included.

Frank Reiner 11-11-2013 11:40 AM

This from a 1986 FSM supplemental manual for the 126.125 300SDL (OM603):

Empty weight: 1740kg
Permissible total wight: 2210kg
Axle load front/rear: 1065kg/1145kg

vstech 11-11-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Reiner (Post 3236863)
This from a 1986 FSM supplemental manual for the 126.125 300SDL (OM603):

Empty weight: 1740kg
Permissible total wight: 2210kg
Axle load front/rear: 1065kg/1145kg

so... 48/52...:D

toomany MBZ 11-11-2013 12:25 PM

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Yeah, on mine this info is on the B pillar.

Mölyapina 11-11-2013 01:38 PM

Thanks everyone! Looks like I got what I was looking for.

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Originally Posted by vstech (Post 3236877)
so... 48/52...:D

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toomany MBZ 11-11-2013 01:49 PM

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t walgamuth 11-11-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vstech (Post 3236877)
so... 48/52...:D

That is permissible load so it means four adults and a load in the trunk.;)

and with just the driver it would be more like 52/48.;)

vstech 11-11-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by toomany MBZ (Post 3236893)
Yeah, on mine this info is on the B pillar.

Hmmm...
I think that's the gross vehicle weight... so that's the distribution loaded...
empty would seem the weight will favor the front...

Skippy 11-12-2013 06:48 AM

Take the car to a truck stop and weigh it for eight bucks or so. You'll get the total weight and the front and rear axle weights. Weigh it in the running condition you're interested in. In my case, that was full fuel, driver, and no passengers or cargo. In this condition, my 240D was considerably heavier on the front axle than the rear.

1project2many 11-12-2013 08:06 AM

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Take the car to a truck stop and weigh it for eight bucks or so.
Take it to the scrap yard and weigh it for free. But don't stop... they'll put it on the pile! Those guys think everything made of steel is scrap!

tyl604 11-13-2013 09:18 PM

What do you plan to use this information for? I am at a loss.

Mölyapina 11-13-2013 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tyl604 (Post 3238311)
What do you plan to use this information for? I am at a loss.

World domination planning. It's all in the details.

Mölyapina 11-13-2013 10:54 PM

Seriously, though, I'm considering brake mods and some of the equations I'm working with require finding the car's center of gravity, which is found using the wheelbase and weight distribution.

Skippy 11-14-2013 05:48 AM

My rears lock up before fronts on clean dry pavement. This isn't good. I think it happens because tire technology has advanced considerably in the 30 years since my car was made, and I buy the stickiest tires available. I'd love a driver adjustable proportioning valve, as is seen in F1, but funds don't allow it right now.

t walgamuth 11-14-2013 06:50 AM

The benz brakes are not prone to lockup like that. I experienced it once on my 500SEC but it was because I had ceramic pads on front and not back. The fronts locked up because the ceramics grab a lot more than other types. Have you changed brake pads?

1project2many 11-14-2013 07:05 AM

I've been very impressed by the brakes in both my 126's. For a car of that size, they'll perform very well. I wouldn't be afraid to drive to Lowell daily with it.

IIRC, Centrix sells a high carbon rotor and a good set of pads that will make a simple pad and rotor change produce good results. I get fair pricing from local stores if interested.

cho 11-14-2013 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jooseppi Luna (Post 3238344)
... I'm considering brake mods ...

Dont.
Do.
It.



.:behead:

Skippy 11-14-2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3238432)
The benz brakes are not prone to lockup like that. I experienced it once on my 500SEC but it was because I had ceramic pads on front and not back. The fronts locked up because the ceramics grab a lot more than other types. Have you changed brake pads?

Rears yes, along with rotors and calipers. The fronts are what was on when I bought the car in 2005. I'm waiting for the front pads to wear out before I do W126 rotors and calipers.


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