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yvairguy 12-13-2013 12:27 PM

I'm guessing top end too

zorecati 12-13-2013 07:31 PM

This sucks my friend. I've been going through your video's which is kind of like going through JFK's assassination to his inauguration.

winmutt 12-13-2013 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chasinthesun (Post 3253949)
Mine was similiar on a 602 4cyl diesel ,it wouldnt run after I had parked during a drive ,during the drive it had very low power made sounds very close to what your cars engine sounds like, towed it home .The Short story is it had a broken cam ,was sheared in two parts ,the chain would allow cyl 1-3 to turn with compression but a the 4th cylinder their was no movement for the valves to open and close due to the cam failure,take your valve cover off and Im beating youll see the same issue.If you can replace just the cam ,yahoo, the original cam has done its job for those many ,many yrs of service.

This was a hypothesis of mine as well....

ps you wont see boost parked unless you powerbrake.

ichris93 12-13-2013 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chasinthesun (Post 3253949)
Mine was similiar on a 602 4cyl diesel ,it wouldnt run after I had parked during a drive ,during the drive it had very low power made sounds very close to what your cars engine sounds like, towed it home .The Short story is it had a broken cam ,was sheared in two parts ,the chain would allow cyl 1-3 to turn with compression but a the 4th cylinder their was no movement for the valves to open and close due to the cam failure,take your valve cover off and Im beating youll see the same issue.If you can replace just the cam ,yahoo, the original cam has done its job for those many ,many yrs of service.

Urghhh the 602 is a 5 cylinder...

chasinthesun 12-14-2013 11:37 AM

As it goes ,a 600 after the cam break.

jusme 12-14-2013 12:38 PM

Broken camshaft also my guess as it keeps oil pressure.

I've got a OM603 3.0L with 117,000 on it that I'd be willing to sell. Got to get rid of everything if the deal goes through on this new house in a very restricted subdivision. Gonna be hard to change, but in my case, it's needed. Anyway, you (or other forum members) are welcome to it. Over the next year, I'll be listing all the cars I have and parts as well as I make my transformation to suburbia. Stay tuned.

jbrianfoto 12-14-2013 03:11 PM

Let us know what you find under the valve cover, if it does turn out to be a busted cam, I have one that I'll give you for the shipping. I really want to see you running again since you just went thru all this work. Pulling and replacing the cam is a cake job.

Smoker 12-14-2013 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jusme (Post 3254418)
Broken camshaft also my guess as it keeps oil pressure.

I've got a OM603 3.0L with 117,000 on it that I'd be willing to sell. Got to get rid of everything if the deal goes through on this new house in a very restricted subdivision. Gonna be hard to change, but in my case, it's needed. Anyway, you (or other forum members) are welcome to it. Over the next year, I'll be listing all the cars I have and parts as well as I make my transformation to suburbia. Stay tuned.

Don't do it. You'll absolutely hate it. I won't give up life on the little farm for the 'burbs, don't care that I spend 2.5 to 3 hours a day driving. That said, maybe by then I'll have my money sorted out and can relieve you of some of 'em. Wanted to get the ones from Suffolk but doubt I'll be sorted in time.

ngarover 12-15-2013 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jusme (Post 3254418)
Broken camshaft also my guess as it keeps oil pressure.

I've got a OM603 3.0L with 117,000 on it that I'd be willing to sell. Got to get rid of everything if the deal goes through on this new house in a very restricted subdivision. Gonna be hard to change, but in my case, it's needed. Anyway, you (or other forum members) are welcome to it. Over the next year, I'll be listing all the cars I have and parts as well as I make my transformation to suburbia. Stay tuned.

May take you up on it depending on what I find. What are you asking for the engine?

ngarover 12-16-2013 05:51 PM

Pulled Valve Cover

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/...t.php?aid=6976

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/...t.php?aid=6977

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/...t.php?aid=6978

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/...t.php?aid=6979

ichris93 12-16-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ngarover (Post 3255407)
Pulled Valve Cover

Is that from piston/valve interference?

jbrianfoto 12-16-2013 05:59 PM

I have a used set if you want 'em. Unknown miles, but they would get you on the road.

sixto 12-16-2013 06:00 PM

It's deja vu with one fewer cylinder - http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/324783-1992-300d-2-5-vacuum-pump-failure-ball-bearings-fell-into-timing-chain-6.html (scroll to posts 82 and 87).

Sixto
87 300D

Shortsguy1 12-16-2013 06:21 PM

Assuming that is a hydraulic lifter, does it break and then cause the valves or cam to break... or does a valve get stuck and then the lifter gets crushed as the cam comes around? I guess I am trying to ascertain if bad lifters cause the problem or if they are just collateral damage. Thanks.

And sorry about the engine.

gsxr 12-16-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ngarover (Post 3252824)
Note the temp, oil bouncing.... car felt like it was running on 5 cylinders and shaking.

I've seen the oil pressure gauge bouncing on my OM602 that blew the head gasket ahead of the #1 cylinder. Not sure of the cause on yours though.

I also had a bad tick on the OM602 that wasn't cured with new lifters. Turns out the head gasket was failing, and gasket debris was clogging some of the ports in the main oil passage that feeds the lifters. The new lifters were ticking because they weren't getting any oil. I wonder if that might be what happened on your 603 head... one of the lifters was running dry, and self-destructed??

Bummer. You probably won't be able to tell if the head is salvageable until the head is removed for inspection.

If the shop put it all together and gave the car back to you ticking like that, they screwed up. It NEVER should have been returned to the customer with that kind of noise.

:nuke:


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