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Old 12-27-2013, 01:30 PM
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Now seeing the amount and quality of the parts, it seems that the price you are charging is reasonable. You get what you pay for. Some folks don't mind paying extra for better quality and ease of installation. I have to say, it looks like your kit may be as "bolt in" as they get for putting a 5 spd behind a 617.

my thoughts as well. I especially like the steel flywheel and including 75 bucks worth of bolts is a nice touch.

As a comparison, I bought a kit for 900 bucks a couple years ago, included a flywheel, pilot bearing adapter, and plate only. I think it was worth the money just for plug and play. However, I would prefer a steel flywheel, the one im using is an aluminum with removable friction plate.

x2 to a comment above, why do we need the oil filter relocation plates? the starter is on the passenger side for the ford bell housing, right?

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Old 12-27-2013, 11:51 PM
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There are two reasons for the oil filter relocation- First is access. I designed this kit to swap an OM617 into something else using a readily available domestic transmission and off the shelf replacement parts. Many of these swap candidates have poor access to the rear of the engine, or a steering box, or brake booster in the way.
The second is because the oil pressure sender is in the way of the plate. If you take the sender off and plug the port, the oil filter can stay where it is, but you won't have any indication of oil pressure.
It took a long time to get this kit to where I was happy with it.
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Old 12-28-2013, 12:32 AM
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Could you use an elbow joint to reroute the oil pressure gauge line?
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Old 12-28-2013, 08:32 AM
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A quick web search of "m5r2 transmission" comes up with some unflattering details about bad seals and such, but point out that during rebuild you can fix most of its problems. And yes, they are plentiful enough to use.

Can you explain that flywheel to me? I don't see a friction surface.

Also, you mentioned a starter being in the kit, but I don't see it in the pictures. You're using a ford/mazda sourced starter instead of the benz one?

Cool project. -CTH
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Old 12-28-2013, 11:29 AM
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There are two reasons for the oil filter relocation- First is access. I designed this kit to swap an OM617 into something else using a readily available domestic transmission and off the shelf replacement parts. Many of these swap candidates have poor access to the rear of the engine, or a steering box, or brake booster in the way.
The second is because the oil pressure sender is in the way of the plate. If you take the sender off and plug the port, the oil filter can stay where it is, but you won't have any indication of oil pressure.
It took a long time to get this kit to where I was happy with it.
I'm curious about this, is it an electronic oil sender that does not fit? What are you using as a test 617? I'm using a flat plate too, and there is plenty of clearance between the housing and the pressure sender goes forward from the adapter plate and is a non issue.

Honestly what would hit first is the turbo oil feed line, but that still has decent room. I had no issues with the oiling at all, I even have a chunky metric to NPT adapter fitted to run to an aftermarket gauge. The engine I'm using is a 123 300D source motor.
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Old 12-29-2013, 10:32 AM
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I would to buy oil filter relocator plates to move oil filter on om617 engine going to go into 1984 f150 pickup Do you have them for sale 4-4 welder?
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I would to buy oil filter relocator plates to move oil filter on om617 engine going to go into 1984 f150 pickup Do you have them for sale 4-4 welder?
Actually, I'm kind of halfway curious about this as well. Considering deleting the canister filter and going to a nice spin-on for ease of acquisition on the road, and to allow easy access to the IP adjustments.
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There are two reasons for the oil filter relocation- First is access. I designed this kit to swap an OM617 into something else using a readily available domestic transmission and off the shelf replacement parts. Many of these swap candidates have poor access to the rear of the engine, or a steering box, or brake booster in the way.
The second is because the oil pressure sender is in the way of the plate. If you take the sender off and plug the port, the oil filter can stay where it is, but you won't have any indication of oil pressure.
It took a long time to get this kit to where I was happy with it.

heres is why I had the earlier question about you needing the remote filter plates as part of the kit other than optional.

This is how my flat plate relates to the oil filter, there is a ton of room between the plate and housing, gauge, and feed line for the turbo. Its decent clearance to get to both bell housing bolts, and MB filter housing stuff.

Unless the oil filter housing shape is different, you shouldn't need those plates. Thats why i was asking about the SD motors, dont the oil filter housings fit a little differently? maybe that creates a clearance issue. A 123 sourced motor though there is a lot of room
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5 speed progress ?

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Adapter plate, flywheel adapter, flywheel, bolts, oil filter relocation plates, and starter.
I'm working on getting a website up and running, I have a ton of pics like this:

I've had a lot of stuff taking priority over getting the site up, but should have it going by about mid-February.
Hi. Did you ever get the 5 speed kit figured out?
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5 speed. But maybe even a 6 speed?

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Adapter plate, flywheel adapter, flywheel, bolts, oil filter relocation plates, and starter.
I'm working on getting a website up and running, I have a ton of pics like this:

I've had a lot of stuff taking priority over getting the site up, but should have it going by about mid-February.
Did this kit ever go into production? Thanks
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I wonder if that transmission can handle the torque of the diesel engine.
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I wonder if that transmission can handle the torque of the diesel engine.
The 617 turbo makes 181ft lbs. Easy for anything that'll handle a small block Ford to handle that.
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wonder if you could collab with doomsday diesel, your stuff will fit right in.
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It's a 7 year old thread. The OP hasn't logged into the site in 6 years.

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