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Re-torque or would I Be a Dork?
I was wondering what the collective wisdom is on re-torquing the head on a 617. My car has 310k and shows no symptoms of a bad head gasket, but am wondered whether it would be good housekeeping to re-torque during my next valve adjustment.
Or should I just let sleeping dogs lie.
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Leave it alone.
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'if it aint broke, Dont fix it'
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I think mercedes should have done all engines at 12,000 miles like most carmakers use to do.you'll likely start leaks but I wouldn't be surprised if they were all loose.My intake manifold was,I had to tighten all the bolts.I had a dream my turbo was shaking,and that morning I went to check them,they all took 1 1/2 turns to tighten
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They are stretch bolts so you could actually weaken them by going further.
I believe most head gasket failures are they just rot with age. Or you seriously overheat the engine and warp the head somewhat. |
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X what ever - leave 'em alone!
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If they were meant to be checked or re-torqued MB would have stated such in their documentation.
Mines at 321k with no (serious) leaks or any issues at all. Pretty good I'd say. Its been handing the 10-20F weather here no problem too, starter is 11+ years old, battery is 7 years old....still fires right up. Glow plugs are about 3-4 years old at this point...none have failed in a long time.
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Leave the 12pt head bolts alone.
Do snug up any loose manifold/accessory bolts.
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Answer
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Replace the cylinder head gasket or leave the bolts alone. .
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Agreed across the board. You would be a Dork if you were to re-torque (please don't take offense, you asked the question)
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I'll have to agree - leave 'em alone. However, you MIGHT be a Dork - those two are not necessarily related. Of course, you might not be - different topic!
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Well, the verdict is in. I'll leave 'em alone.
However, with regard to being a dork, just ask my daughters who shake their heads at my Benz obsession.
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Haven't they heard the song?
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Being a dork from having a 'Benz obsession could be construed as being a complement!
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