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Mölyapina 02-02-2014 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tjts1 (Post 3280660)
Who drives 60mph on the highway? You're likely to get run off the road by a semi if you're going that slowly.

Well, that's a bit of an exaggeration, at least for around here. When there isn't much traffic on the road, going 60 in the right lane is not unreasonable at all. If faster-moving people can't gauge from a distance that i am moving slower than they are, they are the problem, not me. When there is consistent traffic, I move at the speed of the right or middle lanes, which is typically somewhere around 65-75 (depending on the highway).
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Originally Posted by RunningTooHot (Post 3280689)
Hey tjts1, I'm sure that you've seen (on the 405 when it actually moves) those clueless hyper-mileing IDIOTS in priuses (priussi?). 60mph on a good day.

When they're not plugging up the left lanes, you can find them with a semi truck parked on their bumper, ready to roll right over them. They are either completely unaware, or just have no consideration for how their behavior adversely affects everyone around them.

That's funny, around here the slow drivers don't seem to be attracted to any specific kind of car. In fact, I probably get passed by more Prii than I pass. We have a friend who has a Prius, and she says that on the highway, she drives at or over the speed of traffic because the car is very quiet and efficient at high speeds.

It's the Prius' fault that some overzealous semi driver is tailgating him? Huh?
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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe (Post 3280742)
Anyone following the 60mph speed limit.;):P

The unimaginable horror :rolleyes:. Who would DO such a thing?

Skid Row Joe 02-02-2014 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jooseppi Luna (Post 3280845)
Well, that's a bit of an exaggeration, at least for around here. When there isn't much traffic on the road, going 60 in the right lane is not unreasonable at all. If faster-moving people can't gauge from a distance that i am moving slower than they are, they are the problem, not me. When there is consistent traffic, I move at the speed of the right or middle lanes, which is typically somewhere around 65-75 (depending on the highway).

That's funny, around here the slow drivers don't seem to be attracted to any specific kind of car. In fact, I probably get passed by more Prii than I pass. We have a friend who has a Prius, and she says that on the highway, she drives at or over the speed of traffic because the car is very quiet and efficient at high speeds.

It's the Prius' fault that some overzealous semi driver is tailgating him? Huh?

The unimaginable horror :rolleyes:. Who would DO such a thing?

Who, yes who indeed would DO such a thing? Oh, the remarkable, imaginable horror :rolleyes:.

Apparently, some believe the tailgater driving above the speed limit is the good guy. ;):P

RunningTooHot 02-02-2014 02:35 AM

In all seriousness, if someone wants to go slow, fine - that's their prerogative. However, that person has a responsibility to NOT try to dictate how fast others "should" be going by impeding the flow of traffic ("should" being an opinion) - so stay in the right lane(s) and allow others to go past you without causing them to do something stupid, i.e., forcing them to pass you on the right. If you are in the far right lane and a big-rig, with it's reduced allowable speed limit, is crawling up your ass because your car is in the way, that should be telling you something. It's called situational awareness, and it's no time to become an indignant self-righteous ass. Unless of course you *really* want to challenge Darwin's theories.

The same applies towards someone that wants to go faster - it needs to be done in a prudent manner with consideration towards the safety of others. That includes others that have far less situational awareness and spatial perception capabilities. And lack of spatial abilities is a BIG factor.

The errors of judgement as to what is prudent in either situation is another matter. Suffice it to say that most Americans do not even know what the term "lane discipline" means, let alone follow it.

I did a round trip run from Zurich to Brussels this past October, partially at night, and I can't even begin to describe what a pleasure it is to drive where people are (usually) aware of what's happening around them, obey the laws (generally) and *especially* the laws pertaining to lane discipline. It makes for a pleasant, efficient, safe, & fast driving environment for everyone - the speed demons AND the slow-pokes.

Hmmmm.... I think we've gotten a bit off subject here. :o

ROLLGUY 02-02-2014 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RunningTooHot (Post 3280870)
In all seriousness, if someone wants to go slow, fine - that's their prerogative. However, that person has a responsibility to NOT try to dictate how fast others "should" be going by impeding the flow of traffic ("should" being an opinion) - so stay in the right lane(s) and allow others to go past you without causing them to do something stupid, i.e., forcing them to pass you on the right. If you are in the far right lane and a big-rig, with it's reduced allowable speed limit, is crawling up your ass because your car is in the way, that should be telling you something. It's called situational awareness, and it's no time to become an indignant self-righteous ass. Unless of course you *really* want to challenge Darwin's theories.

The same applies towards someone that wants to go faster - it needs to be done in a prudent manner with consideration towards the safety of others. That includes others that have far less situational awareness and spatial perception capabilities. And lack of spatial abilities is a BIG factor.

The errors of judgement as to what is prudent in either situation is another matter. Suffice it to say that most Americans do not even know what the term "lane discipline" means, let alone follow it.

I did a round trip run from Zurich to Brussels this past October, partially at night, and I can't even begin to describe what a pleasure it is to drive where people are (usually) aware of what's happening around them, obey the laws (generally) and *especially* the laws pertaining to lane discipline. It makes for a pleasant, efficient, safe, & fast driving environment for everyone - the speed demons AND the slow-pokes.

Hmmmm.... I think we've gotten a bit off subject here. :o

Maybe a bit off, but none the less true....Rich

RunningTooHot 02-02-2014 03:25 AM

Sorry about the rant. I need to get off this soapbox - it's feeling really rickety and wobbly, like it's about to collapse. Hey.... what's this label on the side? U-R-O....

RunningTooHot 02-03-2014 07:20 PM

I would not suggest relying upon a single tank to assess mileage - it's better to average out at least 3 tanks or more to allow for fill-up discrepancies.

That being said, my 1st tank came in at 22.3 mpg. That was with a LOT of heavy-footed acceleration runs, about 30% heavily congested traffic, and a propensity for "checking out" the available torque on a far too regular basis. I've been driving it more aggressively than I do in my NA '95 - the torque allows for more "point & shoot" utilization of holes in traffic, and that's obviously not good for mileage.

I'm sure the car will do better when the loose nut behind the wheel gets a grip & chills out a bit...

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Doktor Bert 02-06-2014 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JCommiss (Post 3279285)
Hey all,

I've been tracking my mpg over the past three tanks of gas and found it was only 28 on the highways at 75mph. I've heard so many people talking about at least 30+ with this vehicle, even higher in some instances.

The air filter, oil filter, and fuel filters are all new. I called a local diesel shop and was told if the injectors were the causation the engine would idle roughly, or there would be some sort of smoke kicked out the exhaust (which it does SOMETIMES going down hills while accelerating on the highway). He recommended that the Mass Airflow Sensor may be bad. I've read if the MAF is bad you will easily know, as it will trip a CEL and the car won't function properly - not just a reduction in mpg.

Thanks for all your help, and if you guys want any further information I'll supply!

I think your mileage is excellent. Most people that I know, that have this model, don't get anywhere near 30 mpg...FWIW

Driving style has a lot to do with the equation too and driving 60 mph in So Cal is like swimming with Great Whites. For comparison, the design of a particular engine has a lot to do with efficiency too. I get 26-28 mpg in my 2001 Mustang GT (4.6 V8 Supercharged) and on my 2012 trip to Florida, I pulled 30 mpg (in Arizona, Louisiana & Alabama at 75mph with the cruise on...I think the 2 mpg increase was likely due to the Non-California fuels in these states as the pumps have no vapor foreskins and the fuel smells different....


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