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Stretch 03-09-2014 03:16 PM

W201 annular axle re-boot – much easier than W123 homokinetic axles!
 
G'day Folks,

{Sorry for the childish title but I'm in one of my moods}

What a difference ten years makes – 1981 W123 vs 1992 W201; if only I'd had bought one of the last W123s, I wouldn't have had the worst job on a W123 ever to contend with => trying to re-boot those bloody homo(kinetic) axles. Annular axle re-boot is in comparison a piece of piss.

So here's a few pictures of a W201 annular axle being re-booted with the “original” thick style boots.

I reckon these axles are so easy to do it is worthwhile considering these items as service items – every five years in a wet climate – whip 'em off the car; paint 'em up and give 'em a bit of grease! Go on you know you want to – easy weekend job if you get your ducks lined up.

It is especially worthwhile considering these items as service items (rather than wait until they break items) when you see what vstech found =>

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/349814-w201-w210-rear-axles-need-servicing.html

It turns out that many axle shafts are left unpainted inside the axle boot (well there's some sort of electroplated coating but it isn't up to the job). If water gets in there – rust – rust eats – twist – dink...

This process is covered by the FSM – chapter 35-660. There's a lot of that chapter regurgitated here but I've added in some extra comments though that might make this all worthwhile. In my defence – the W201 FSM is not as well written as the W123 FSM and the pictures are crap.

You can remove the axles from your trusty W201 by loosening the bolts that hold the axle onto the differential.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...ferential1.jpg

Ignore the socket extension fitted to the differential drain plug in the picture above – concentrate on the bolts you can see next to the axle boot.

Please note because I got carried away the pictures below show axle removal with the sub frame removed from the car. Someone once told me I don't have to strip every bloody part of the car just to do the axle boots; but where's the fun in that? I mean where I live a Mercedes just isn't a Mercedes if it still has wheels on it...

...if like me you've also been a bit too keen and you've already yanked the differential off of the sub frame and pulled the C clips from the axle flanges =>

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...fferential.jpg

Then you'll have to whack the axle flanges in a vice to remove those bolts

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...-hard-way1.jpg

The differential end of the axle looks like this

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...-hard-way2.jpg

However, with the axles still on the car you need to remove the nut at the wheel

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...-axle-end1.jpg

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...-axle-end2.jpg

With care you can use a simple three legged puller to push the axle through the hub

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...-wheel-hub.jpg

In summary the method is => bolts at differential – nut at wheel hub – wiggle – compress – pull out. You might have to raise or lower the back end of the car to get the good angle on the dangle.

Cutting the clips carefully as shown makes the least mess

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...oot-clips1.jpg

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...oot-clips2.jpg

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...oot-clips3.jpg

You can then just pull the boots away to see if you have some nasty rust in there – hopefully not

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...ong-shaft1.jpg

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...ong-shaft2.jpg

If you decide to do this check with the axle still on the car (this could be done this way in principle) then you're going to need to fit different clamps from the original style shown in the pictures above. Here's a link to a video showing a metal zip-tie-like effort.

LINK Installing a Clamp on a CV Boot - YouTube

Fitting the original (much tougher) style is shown below in a bit.

Stretch 03-09-2014 03:16 PM

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On with the dismantling.

A small tap with a small hammer and a screw driver releases the end cap at the differential end of the axle.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394392972

Clean it up to see the circlip that holds the ball bearing assembly on the end of the axle shaft. The FSM calls this a synchromesh joint – I'm not sure if that's a dodgy translation or not. I'm not so good at naming these parts.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394392972

Before you remove the circlip you are meant to mark the three parts of the bearing assembly.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394392972

The FSM says you are meant to press the axle shaft through this bearing / synchromesh assembly with two shell clamps that split and fit around the shaft. On both of my axles I used a three legged puller to push the axle shaft through the bearing / synchro assembly. Neither of these assemblies were that tight a fit on the shafts.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394392972

This is what you get once you pull the boots off.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394392972

Stretch 03-09-2014 03:17 PM

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On one of my axles I found evidence of water ingress on the differential side. Very strange – wheel side was dry.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393072

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393080

The boot on the right hand side of the picture above was the one that seemed to have gotten wet. The grease felt very different in the dry and wet ends. I reckon the water has mixed with the grease and has been flung on the inside of the boot during use because the viscosity or “stick-ability” changed.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393086

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393093

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393099

Stretch 03-09-2014 03:17 PM

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If you are going to be taking your time with this project it is probably worthwhile wrapping up the ball bearings in their race to make sure they don't get lost or damaged. Old disposable gloves can get a second life doing this sort of thing.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393287

To clean off the surface rust and gunk I used an angle grinder and wire brush attachment. Stuff some bog roll into the can joint that goes into the wheel hub – this can not be taken apart {for this service}.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393228

Bit of paint

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393296

New paint and new boots.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393303

The GKN replacement boots came with a new cover and some bolts for attaching the axle to the differential; whilst the Kager ones just had the boots and the clips.

Note these GKN bolts do not come with any thread lock on them. There's been trouble about that...

...don't you forget to fit them with thread lock.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393309

Stretch 03-09-2014 03:17 PM

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Here's a view inside the can side that you can not easily dismantle. The only way to deal with this is to dig out the old grease as best you can and fit in some new.

If anyone discovers new cans for these ends please let me know about them. The W123 cans are too big - and are of a different shape.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393422

I've decided to ignore the “free” grease that comes in the boot kits and use some good quality stuff instead.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393480

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393434

If you are going to use the “original” clamps you will find that you need to put the clips on the smaller end of the boots before you fit them to the axle shaft. You can't get the clips to hook into the slots on the clamp with the boot fitted on the axle shaft.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393441

The point of restriction is the abutting land at the end of the splined section of the axle shaft

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393480

Stretch 03-09-2014 03:18 PM

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The FSM says to use their elongated conical condom-like special tool to fit the boots onto the axle shafts. I've been there before with boot guns and KY jelly and W123 axles – broken fingers and busted boots and frustration can rule your world...

...not worth trying to do that during my life span again...

…plan B => build a simple wooden press.

EDIT - please note this wooden press is a "make your life easier" suggestion. It isn't 100% necessary. See comment here =>
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/3299327-post16.html

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393584

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393645

Clips fitted to the boots. Big washer used to spread the load.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393596

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393605

All because the lady loves Milk Tray

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393613

Finger nails and dignity intact. Take that you rubber bastards!

Stretch 03-09-2014 03:18 PM

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Now that the boot on the wheel end has been pushed into place, the boot for the differential end needs to go on with the clip for the axle fitted to the boot. Don't forget to put the boot on the right way round.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393741

This time the washer used for spreading the load is placed inside the boot

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393750

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393760

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393769

Don't forget to remove that washer

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393780

Stretch 03-09-2014 03:18 PM

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Boots on

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393907

Irritatingly I found that the GKN boots came with clamps that are too big for the axle can openings.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393994

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393940

Looks like I'll be off down the dealer sometime this week.

If like me you forgot to read the FSM (as usual) and didn't mark the positions of the three sections of the bearing assembly / synchro you will probably need to figure out how these things go back together. There's a right way and a wrong way.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393950

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394393961

Stretch 03-09-2014 03:19 PM

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http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394394074

If you assemble the inner spider so that the wide parts match with the wide parts of the outer spider =>

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394394095

Then you will find that the joint is rigid – it is locked into one position.

It will be so stiff that you might think it has been friction welded into place. Trying to knock out the inner spider part does not work. The secret to dis-assembly is to push out the centre ring cage – push it through the joint and then twist the inner spider round and pop out the ball bearings.

Correct assembly is when the thin parts are aligned with the thick parts

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394394084

An alternative way of considering the assembly is that where there are a pair of converging tracks in the outer spider part of the assembly, they need to mesh with a diverging pair of tracks on the inner spider. Look at the pictures above to see what I mean (in previous post).

To assemble the bearing assembly / synchro coat the (middle) bearing cage with grease and slide in the inner spider.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394394104

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394394129

Stretch 03-09-2014 03:19 PM

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Simply push the ball bearings into inner spider through the holes in the cage.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394394258

Fit this in the outer spider.

This might seem like a bit of a “Haynes” instruction but it is really just a simple case of slotting two opposing balls into two correct tracks to get this =>

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...ve-fitment.jpg

Tap the assembly onto the axle shaft

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394394267

Fit circlip

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394394276

Clean the outer surface of the axle can with degreaser so that you can apply some sort of sealant for the axle end cap. The FSM specifies a gucci Loctite. I'm using twenty year old Blue Hylomar found in my cellar – this isn't a recommendation but will probably keep water out. RTV would probably do too.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394394287

Using two bolts {that fit the axle to the differential} as a guide for the hole positions on the cap, fit the cap

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394394297

Stretch 03-09-2014 03:19 PM

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I used bolts, washers and nuts to persuade the cap to fit on the end of the axle. G-clamps might also work, as could a hammer and a punch, though the chances of damage during assembly increase with these methods.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394394449

Because the boot clamps for the large ends were too big I need to get some new ones. It is possible to fiddle with the original style boot clamps for the large end of the boot but not with the small ones because of the physical restriction of the axle shaft.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394394516

Before the clamps on the axle shaft are crimped into position it is best to fully extend the axle – pull the axle can away from the shaft.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394394516

Commonly found (nail removing) pincer pliers can be used to form the crimp on these original clamps. The proper pliers for this job are similar although not so sharp – so be careful if you are using these “cutter” style pliers. Obviously you need to deform – not slice.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...1&d=1394394516

When you come to fit the axles to the differential don't forget the thread locker for the bolts and don't forget to stake / peen the nut at the wheel hub.

Stretch 03-10-2014 05:30 PM

Good clamp size for the larger boot opening is 68mm. The GKN boots came with 74mm diameter clamps - too big for the job.

DeliveryValve 03-10-2014 06:02 PM

As usual excellent pictorial and nice explanations.

This must be a record to have 12 consecutive posts in one thread. (Could of had more, but I messed you up buddy!)


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DeliveryValve 03-10-2014 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stretch (Post 3299107)

I don't quite understand the purpose of this press. Did you complete the other side yet? If no, then you need to make a video of how you used it!


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vstech 03-10-2014 07:28 PM

For the end cap I recommend loctite anaerobic sealant with activator on the cap.


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