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Old 03-17-2014, 04:03 PM
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I've often thought of trying something similar. I'd be a little afraid of the potential smell and the threat of a fire. But if the scale could be small enough it could just work.
I have an oil burner i was thinking of using for the heat source so once it is up and running i would be running some of the product for the heat source, my only other expense would be a little electricity.

i have about a half acre that i could set this in the middle of for the first couple test runs. like i have said in other threads this is not much out of the scope of what i have done as a contractor for the last 30 years, that is to say to build and assemble, so i am not some kid out of high school with basic chemistry under my belt thinking of doing this. there is a guy on youtube that has several videos of some very nice stainless cracking towers, aka distillation towers, that i believe is in australia and he actually sells them on his web site.

you are right, even with lighting the top of the tower i am going to have smell, my thought was maybe to run a retort set up to reburn the waste gases..... you could also possibly use the heat produced for other things.

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Old 03-17-2014, 04:18 PM
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Some questions:
1) Why filter it at all before centrifuging it?
when i started this i was just going to use the bags, bought off ebay, but like cooljjay pointed out i wanted more insurance that i wasn't running a metal slurry through everything,also it helps catch all the big chunks of junk
2) Where do you buy the filters/how much do they cost/how long do they last?ebay and i only bought one set 50/10/1 micron, if i remember right they were less than 20 bucks with shipping and i have used them to process about 60 to 80 gallons, they have slowed but still working
3) What would be the benefit of settling out the suspended particles with hydrated calcium sulfate?
possibly allowing everything to precipitate out, if you could do this you may not have to do anything else
4) Where did you get your centrifuge?
I made the centrifuge out of a omega juicer bought off ebay
5) Cracking tower? You mean you'd be drilling for your own oil?
you use heat to distill the waste oil
Does that mean that you don't mix with gas? What do you mix with?
my first couple of batches i used some old gas i has sitting around, then i used some old diesel, the last batch is straight mixed waste oil, it's a mix of transmission fluid and motor oil no other gas or diesel, if it was cold right now i would have to think of adding something to get the viscosity down or maybe adding some glow plug heaters like they do with grease systems, but right now it's working fine
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wonder if i could bolt it up to the meyers manx, hmmmm....

I actually have done a swap once before and it was cake, same thing everyone said it couldn't be done, weight, cooling, noise, wiring.... ran great, worked great, sold it to a friend.

my thought was to find what i could out there that had already been done, like the astro van thread, or some of the toyota swaps i have seen and see if i can get adapters and such, but after reading some of this I think maybe i should just be happy it's a good runner and keep tinkering.
Im pretty sure the astro van project $$ amount is way beyond the comfort level of most thinking off swaps for next to nothing,, but i would point you to a dead/forsaken toyota forerunner with the expired v6, they can be had for 1500-to 2000$
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possibly allowing everything to precipitate out, if you could do this you may not have to do anything else
Oh, that makes sense. I have some WVO and some Plaster of Paris sitting around -- I might play with that idea a little once we are above freezing and I can experiment outside .
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I made the centrifuge out of a omega juicer bought off ebay
What did you do with the juicer? Did you make/use a different bowl? How much can you process at a time/how long does it take?
[EDIT] I Googled it and got answers to my questions. I'll post the links tomorrow in case someone in the future bumps into this and wonders the same thing]
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you use heat to distill the waste oil
Oh, OK. How much heat?
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my first couple of batches i used some old gas i has sitting around, then i used some old diesel, the last batch is straight mixed waste oil, it's a mix of transmission fluid and motor oil no other gas or diesel, if it was cold right now i would have to think of adding something to get the viscosity down or maybe adding some glow plug heaters like they do with grease systems, but right now it's working fine
Oh, that makes sense. I remember Roy H. saying that ATF and hydraulic fluid can be run straight.
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Im pretty sure the astro van project $$ amount is way beyond the comfort level of most thinking off swaps for next to nothing,, but i would point you to a dead/forsaken toyota forerunner with the expired v6, they can be had for 1500-to 2000$
that's what i was thinking forerunner size, pilot or another version of an isuzu
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What did you do with the juicer? Did you make/use a different bowl? How much can you process at a time/how long does it take?
[EDIT] I Googled it and got answers to my questions. I'll post the links tomorrow in case someone in the future bumps into this and wonders the same thing]
yep i was about to buy one of the 1400 dollar systems but saw a thread doing it this way, I cheated and used a plastic bag(my idea) in the centrifuge, it works but i want to try closing the holes on the bowl with some bar top kleer kote(my idea) some people have said JB weld but they have had some balance issues, i want to turn it slow with a rotisserie motor and apply the varnish

Oh, OK. How much heat?
about 300* there is a guy on youtube that has one fired with pellets
DIESEL FUEL FROM WASTE MOTOR OIL ( wmo). DISTILLATION CLOUMN AND BIOCHAR MAKER - YouTube
this is the guy that has the stainless units for sale on his web site
WMO to Diesel fuel, high tempewrature continuous reformer - 2nd version. - YouTube
after cracking you have NEW diesel or whatever other fuel you produce

Oh, that makes sense. I remember Roy H. saying that ATF and hydraulic fluid can be run straight.
only thing that bothers me is the additives they use in ATF, they concern me as much as metal flakes in WMO.
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scrounged several sizes of schedule 80 pipe today from a friends junk pile, need to come up with a good way to make a serviceable boiler and i have the making of a reflux still. plan on trying to do it with electricity and then later with a diesel generator. think i will just have to run each distillate separate for now.
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Funny, using a diesel generator to produce fuel for a vehicle you don't want to run diesel in....think you should ask the moderator to move this to the alternative fuel section....I am assuming they will understand why you are doing what you are doing then we will in the diesel discussion area...
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Funny, using a diesel generator to produce fuel for a vehicle you don't want to run diesel in....think you should ask the moderator to move this to the alternative fuel section....I am assuming they will understand why you are doing what you are doing then we will in the diesel discussion area...
where do you get that i don't want to run diesel in the car? the point of distilling the WMO is to have a pure diesel product to run in the car, it will also produce gas which will either be lost or collected and i will use for other vehicles and my honda generator until i find a diesel unit.

When i get started on building the processor i will start a new thread in the alternative fuel forum.
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I'm interested to see how this pans out. I'm all for making your own fuel
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So aka your going to build your own fuel refinery......I personally would find this extremely dangerous....I lived around refineries....plus I would be afraid I would be reported to the EPA and get fined or end up in prison for illegally producing fuel....
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So aka your going to build your own fuel refinery......I personally would find this extremely dangerous....I lived around refineries....plus I would be afraid I would be reported to the EPA and get fined or end up in prison for illegally producing fuel....
Producing fuel so long as it isn't ethanol is fine, it's running an untaxed fuel on a public road that will send you to the slammer.
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....think you should ask the moderator to move this to the alternative fuel section...
Nahh, keep it here. Alt. Fuels is where thread go to die.
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this thread kind of took a different turn, waiting on my box of goodies to get here to fix all the little problems, which will revel more problems and lead to another order.... LOL
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you can actually produce fuel as long as you track your usage and pay the appropriate taxes and actually probably will if i get to that point. right now at best this is just experimental, it's not like i am going to run a fleet of trucks on the stuff.

Keeping all that in mind I have for years used fuel i bought at the pump that has never seen the street, diesel for heavy equipment, pony motors, generators, heaters, dirt bikes, dune buggies, jeeps, quads, motor cycles, water craft, gold mining equipment...... if the Gov wanted to keep everything fair they would give you different prices at the pump depending on usage because not everyone has a way of excepting 500 gallons of red delivered to their house.

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