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Old 04-17-2014, 10:28 AM
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240 D heater fan switch stiff

Is there a way to lubricate this switch? Mine seems to work but is so stiff I fear I will break something moving it.

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Old 04-17-2014, 10:46 AM
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It's a Bowden cable to the fresh air flap. I would try a drop of ATF.

If you remove the glove box and the upper control panel, it is possible to reach in there and detach the cable from the switch.
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:48 AM
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whatever you do don't force it. if you rip those little plastic balls on wire apart in the switch you have to replace it. It aint cheap.
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Old 04-17-2014, 11:06 AM
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Do you think its in the rotary dash knob, the cable or the electrical switch?
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Do you think its in the rotary dash knob, the cable or the electrical switch?
Pure guess work. But from experience with my old 240D I'd suspect the Bowden cable itself. Agree with the opinion not to force it.

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Old 04-17-2014, 05:34 PM
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Once you have the cable separated from the switch it should be easy to tell if the problem is in the Bowden cable or the switch deck. My money is on the Bowden cable.

There is a bayonet connector in line with the switch that allows the Bowden cable to be separated from the switch body.
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:27 PM
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It is the cable, they get rusty inside from moisture....you can lube them but it needs to be removed in order to do this....chances are the cable is weak and it will snap soon after lubing it...I had the same issue...what I did was to leave the flap open and disconnect the cable from the knob, now that I have the box tore out...I am going to replace it.
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:46 PM
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Thanks gentlemen! I have some ideas now to follow up.
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I just bought the switch for $20.63, and hoping that is the end that has the little balls on a string...cause my string is broken and the little balls are missing. Oh...wait, that really sounds so wrong...
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I just bought the switch for $20.63, and hoping that is the end that has the little balls on a string...cause my string is broken and the little balls are missing. Oh...wait, that really sounds so wrong...

that is a good price, here is the dealer price.


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I had to replace the fan-switch on a friend's Euro 300D because of this issue, as
the knob shaft had actually been twisted off. Lubing both ends of the cable with ATF made the replacement switch work perfectly.
But it 's a real pain getting to the switch end of the cable. You might try detaching and repeatedly lubing the cable-end behind the glovebox first. Then helping that end back & forth with a needle-nose pliers, while gently twisting the knob, to see if it will loosen up.

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Old 04-18-2014, 06:20 PM
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I had the same problem in one of my 240D's. If it has the manual climate control with the center knob switch then I agree with the above comments. Long story short is it's the cable. The switch is dual function unit. It is both an electrical switch as well as a mechanical switch. The flap is where the problem is, the sheathing either swells up or the metal cable rusts in the jacket. A drop of ATF or machine oil with moving the cable should solve the problem.
If you twists the switch to much you will break the plastic mounting bracket which supports all 3 knobs controls. If this has happened, as in my case, I had to pull the center console apart. The bracket which supports the fan switch is secured to the evaporator housing.

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