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Old 04-19-2014, 02:11 AM
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80HP indeed

I was told AMQD buyback cars go straight to the crusher bypassing the pick-n-pull lot. It's a pity someone can't make use of the recently replaced Balo rotors.

I'll throw in a shameless plug for my post in the parts for sale forum.

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Old 04-19-2014, 02:50 AM
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So what`s the deal? Why are you sending her to the crusher, what happened? Could you have sold her to some one, maybe they could have parted her or kept her on the road.

SPLAIN to us.

You done with MB`s? Going over to the depths of the dark side?


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Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

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Old 04-19-2014, 05:04 AM
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This is a recent car-for-sale thread of Sixto's. It answers most of your questions.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/353336-87-300d-care-outbid-aqmd.html
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Old 04-19-2014, 11:39 AM
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Sixto now has two choices. He can stay in the Diesel camp and get a '95 E300 or he can pander to GSXR and get an E500.
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Old 04-19-2014, 11:51 AM
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I think part of the problem with this car NOT going to someone here, is the fact that few knew about it. I hang out here in DD, and very rarely look in the for sale section. However, if I saw this car here in DD, I would certainly have considered it. I have asked before if ALL Diesel related posts/threads can be done here, including for sale threads (sub forum?). I think if Sixto's car was advertised here, and not in the for sale section, a member here would be driving it or at least parting it so it will live on in other cars. It seems that the way it is now, next year I will be buying a tool from Harbor Freight made from his car....Rich
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Old 04-19-2014, 05:45 PM
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Cali will give you a grand to crush a running (just) car? No wonder used car prices are so much higher than before.
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Old 04-19-2014, 06:16 PM
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The car needed paint, front LCA bushigs, ball joints, sunroof work (not moving properly, bothersome wind noise), just about every engine and IP oil seal, finding how rain water gets into the trunk, injector and/or IP service and... umm... oh, yeah, a cylinder head. I could do all that work and likely not get my money back even using used parts, let alone come out $1000 ahead. I don't doubt the economic decision. I'm guilty of not putting effort into finding a new home for it but I'm a lousy salesman particularly at selling for $1000 something I wouldn't pay $1000 for.

The AQMD program requirements include a properly running car MY 1994 or older, registered to a California resident in a listed zip code for at least 2 years, current smog check if applicable (not for pre-'98 Diesels in California), and details like start and restart without assistance, no undue engine or transmission sounds, windshield, all doors, all fenders, one headlight, one tail light, one bumper... The yard would have given me about $300 for it without the AMQD program. One difference is program cars go straight to the crusher. No picking parts of it.

I'm not giving up on MBs. I don't need or have space for another car at the moment but I'll be back before you miss me

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Old 04-19-2014, 07:50 PM
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A fresh palet, there is a whole world of MB's out there just waiting for you. How exciting, time to find a fresh new love !


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Old 04-20-2014, 10:51 AM
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Calif wants all old cars off the road period.

You will not see any older Peterbilts, Kenworths etc... on Calif Hwys unless they have been retrofitted with a very expensive Catalitic type system.
Then this is just a temporary fix till the smog Nazis tighten down the screws some more.

This $1000 buy your car so it can go straight to the crusher is a total waste of resources. It`s just a feel good program.
Each person has to do what they have to do I guess.

Remember....what starts in Kali land, pollutes the rest of the country.


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2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

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I don't see why they bother. I spent two weeks in San Diego last month and I think the air quality there is better than it is here.
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Old 04-20-2014, 09:57 PM
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This $1000 buy your car so it can go straight to the crusher is a total waste of resources. It`s just a feel good program.
Each person has to do what they have to do I guess.
x2. I'm convinced keeping a car of any age on the road has less of an environmental impact than making a new car. The deal should be $1000 to take a car off the road with a stipulation that it won't be replaced. For me, though, this was an economic decision, not driven by conscience

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I'm convinced keeping a car of any age on the road has less of an environmental impact than making a new car.
I wish this were true, but unfortunately it isn't. The energy (or CO2) emissions required to build an IC engine vehicle is very small compared to the energy consumed (and CO2 emitted) during the lifespan of a typical car. So, assuming the new car has better mpg numbers, buying a new car results in fewer overall CO2 emissions. Obviously if the new car has worse fuel economy numbers, than keeping an older car on the road will result in fewer CO2 emissions.

Regarding other pollutants, the story is even more clear (NOx, PM, HC, etc.). Newer cars pollute so much less than older cars, and emissions of these pollutants is relatively small during the manufacturing process. So if you are worried about these "criteria" pollutants, buying a new car is a better decision for the environment.
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Old 04-21-2014, 12:48 AM
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Do you have data or references for this claim?
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Our all-Diesel family
1996 E300D (W210) . .338,000 miles Wife's car
2005 E320 CDI . . 113,000 miles My car
Santa Rosa population 176,762 (2022)
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . 627,762
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Old 04-21-2014, 03:33 AM
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I wish this were true, but unfortunately it isn't. The energy (or CO2) emissions required to build an IC engine vehicle is very small compared to the energy consumed (and CO2 emitted) during the lifespan of a typical car. So, assuming the new car has better mpg numbers, buying a new car results in fewer overall CO2 emissions. Obviously if the new car has worse fuel economy numbers, than keeping an older car on the road will result in fewer CO2 emissions.
An '87 300D is so inefficient that ferrying me to and from work for several years burns more energy and other resources than making a Ford Fusion from scratch? I'm curious what the crossover point is on those intersecting curves. I'd guess most drivers get rid of their cars before the breakeven point.

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Regarding other pollutants, the story is even more clear (NOx, PM, HC, etc.). Newer cars pollute so much less than older cars, and emissions of these pollutants is relatively small during the manufacturing process. So if you are worried about these "criteria" pollutants, buying a new car is a better decision for the environment.
Even if emissions of those pollutants is relatively small, how about energy consumption throughout the supply chain and other pollutants? How much of the pollution in China comes from the automotive industry?

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Old 04-21-2014, 07:06 AM
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These environmental impact discussions remind of:

1. The CNN article from a few years ago that argued that the carbon footprint of a medium sized dog is great than an SUV driven 1,000 miles a month. (taking account of dog food production, transportation, etc., etc.)

2. I've always wondered about the SEPARATE recycling truck that goes through our neighborhood. While we all get this happy green feeling putting out our paper and plastic, what about the extra emissions of this additional truck?

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