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Mölyapina 04-21-2014 04:53 PM

Little squirting noise when I try to use primer pump?
 
I'm trying to bleed the injector hard lines, and while pumping, I get a spritzing-like sound. The pump is a new-style Bosch primer, probably less than seven years old. It does not appear to be leaking, but I have been pumping for several minutes and no diesel has come out of the hard lines yet. Is there something wrong, or does this typically take a good while?

Mölyapina 04-21-2014 04:58 PM

Oh, and should I have all five hard lines cracked open at the injectors (how it is right now), or should I do them one at a time? Does it matter?

Mölyapina 04-21-2014 05:06 PM

Fast pumping action = spritzing noise (like air is being pushed through fluid)
Slow pumping action = no spritzing noise

Zulfiqar 04-21-2014 05:07 PM

I dont think you can get fuel to the hard lines from that little pump, the lift pump primer will only fill the pump elements and the fuel will then exit the return line.

The only way to bleed the hard lines is to spin the pump with it primed first and then tightening the end nuts as you see liquid fuel exit.

tighten and start.

tangofox007 04-21-2014 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jooseppi Luna (Post 3319186)
I'm trying to bleed the injector hard lines, and while pumping, I get a spritzing-like sound.

Your expectations are a bit unrealistic. But, for the good news, the sound you are hearing is likely the IP relief valve operating as designed.

JB3 04-21-2014 05:09 PM

Dont even bother cracking the hard lines unless its horribly airlocked.

Just leave em tight and pump up the primer pump until you can feel fuel moving and it gets harder to pump. Then hop in, throttle to the floor ,and crank. Should pop off and even out after some smoke and randomness

Mölyapina 04-21-2014 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zulfiqar (Post 3319195)
I dont think you can get fuel to the hard lines from that little pump, the lift pump primer will only fill the pump elements and the fuel will then exit the return line.

The only way to bleed the hard lines is to spin the pump with it primed first and then tightening the end nuts as you see liquid fuel exit.

tighten and start.

OK, so you're saying that I should be spinning the little black pump to get fuel through the hard lines? Is this correct?
Quote:

Originally Posted by tangofox007 (Post 3319196)
Your expectations are a bit unrealistic. But, for the good news, the sound you are hearing is likely the IP relief valve operating as designed.

What do you mean?

Zulfiqar 04-21-2014 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jooseppi Luna (Post 3319200)
OK, so you're saying that I should be spinning the little black pump to get fuel through the hard lines? Is this correct?

What do you mean?

umm - spinning the pump means - cranking the engine (it spins the injection pump).

Mölyapina 04-21-2014 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB3 (Post 3319199)
Dont even bother cracking the hard lines unless its horribly airlocked.

Just leave em tight and pump up the primer pump until you can feel fuel moving and it gets harder to pump. Then hop in, throttle to the floor ,and crank. Should pop off and even out after some smoke and randomness

Hm, OK.

Mölyapina 04-21-2014 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zulfiqar (Post 3319202)
umm - spinning the pump means - cranking the engine (it spins the injection pump).

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Thanks :).

Mölyapina 04-21-2014 06:01 PM

Extended cranking, pedal to the floor = VROMM!

Thanks, everyone!

cooljjay 04-21-2014 07:03 PM

Hmmm sounds like someone didn't take his little red pills this morning :P

If your fuel pressure relief valve is the style that can be serviced, take it apart and stretch the spring to 27mm....will help with idling.

Mölyapina 04-21-2014 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooljjay (Post 3319259)
Hmmm sounds like someone didn't take his little red pills this morning :P

If your fuel pressure relief valve is the style that can be serviced, take it apart and stretch the spring to 27mm....will help with idling.

I took my allergy meds. I also got a sunburn today because I told my mom that I didn't need sunscreen. Ha. :rolleyes:

Why would I do the thing with the spring? My idle is happy.

Diesel911 04-21-2014 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zulfiqar (Post 3319195)
I dont think you can get fuel to the hard lines from that little pump, the lift pump primer will only fill the pump elements and the fuel will then exit the return line.

The only way to bleed the hard lines is to spin the pump with it primed first and then tightening the end nuts as you see liquid fuel exit.

tighten and start.

X2; The Fuel Supply/Lift Pump and the Hand Primer cannot create enough pressure to open the Deliver Valves in the Elements of the Fuel Injection pump.

And, even if they could the Plungers in the Elements would have to have be low enough to open Feed Hole in the Elements.

The only time the element Plungers have all of the Fuel Feed Holes open is when they are in the shutoff position.

cooljjay 04-22-2014 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jooseppi Luna (Post 3319322)

Why would I do the thing with the spring? My idle is happy.

Your right, your car is very happy...I remember the photo of the rainbows, flowers and happy faces coming out of the tail pipe :D

http://static.iclipart.com/thumbs/04...wercar_tnb.png

It's just a normal maintenance thing, that the fsm recommends doing every so often....mine was like 8mm to short....gives more power also, as it allows the correct pressure to build up int he injection pump


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