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Changed fuel filter, now no start
I changed the large fuel filter in my 240D and the car is NOT STARTING (ran down a battery trying, car just coughs a bit and laughs at me). I need to get it moved tomorrow before 7 am for street sweeping.
What should I do other than kicking walls, throwing tools, and swearing at the top of my lungs? Primer pump appears to be leaking a bit when I pump it, so I'm not sure if it's priming the system. After the alternator issues (fixed by replacing alt) this week, I'm ready to take a 5# sledgehammer and make my car resemble a golf ball. Last edited by spdrun; 04-27-2014 at 07:30 PM. |
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See post #7…
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Just a question for good measure, are you getting all the air bubbles out of the lines when you prime the system? It's probably safe to assume you've done this before, but you never know...
I would think that if the lift pump valves were shot you also would have a hard time getting fuel up into the new filter with the primer pump. |
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It's possible to bleed the fuel system without the primer pump working. I used to have to do it on Humvee's all the time, since they don't have a primer pump. If you haven't already, fill the filter with diesel or transmission fluid and put it back on. Then crack all the nuts at the fuel injectors. Crank in 20 to 30 second increments, allowing the starter to cool in between. After a while you'll start getting fuel dribbling out at the injector nuts. Once you're getting good fuel flow at a given injector, tighten that nut down. Humvees would usually start on 4 or 5 out of 8. Once you get it started, tighten down the remaining injector nuts (shutting down to do this is optional IMO) and you should be good to go.
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On my 6.5L I fill up the fuel manager will fuel or prime by stabbing the lift pump relay. on my 93 300D just filling up the filter was enough
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But, filing the Filter with Fuel often works on the Older Cars but even if I fill the Filter I like to use the Hand Primer to be sure. The 240D just has a Ball Bearing and Spring in it. See the Pic for what the newer Fuel Pressure Relief/Overflow Valve may look like insidie.
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As the other menber mentioned about the Humvee.
When Air gets trapped between the Fuel Injection Pump and the Injectors inside of the Fuel Injection hard Lines that Air compresses inside of the Lines and dose not move much during Starter Cranking and can Kill the Batter and stress the Starter Motor. Loosening the Fuel Injection Hard Line Nuts at the Injectors and then cranking on the Starter allows the trapped Air a way to easily escape. Also the Air Trapping issue can happen to even the Newer Mercedes Diesels if you are diving and run out of Fuel (excluding the Common Rail Fuel System).
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We need to be clear on what you did.
Did you fill up the fuel filter with diesel or ATF before putting it back on? If not, then did you leave the spin-on filter loose a little bit, so you could see when fuel pumped up into it when you used the primer pump? When you say the primer pump is leaking - do you mean fuel is coming out of it? Really? Please explain. I have been driving these cars since 1997 and that is news to me.
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Yep, filled up filter -- guess I didn't put enough in it for the system to prime. Primer pump was leaking a bit of diesel when I tried to work it. Not sure if it was actually priming or just leaking diesel out when I primed it. Anyway, 2nd time the charm, car started with a bit more cranking after fully charging the battery.
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My 1968 220d with the old style primer pump (probably original) does not leak when pumping (or otherwise).
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Only when they are broken. None of mine leak.
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Congratulations on driving Mercedes diesels with defective primer pumps since 1969 then.
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