I just bought a 1985 MB 409d Trueblood van conversion w/48k miles here in CA, and am wondering if anyone has insight about getting a hold of an owners manual, and/or any other info about this Trueblood company. I am missing a key to what I hope is the generator compartment, but basically am on the front end of a project of sorts...

All I can find it this

Trueblood Mercedes RV, Branded Marketing

and this

TrueBlood Mercedes RV Marketing

I've never heard of the company before - but that doesn't mean much. Lots of little companies adapt trucks chassis with special bodies.

If you want engine related information I can probably find it for you if you read off the engine number on the side of the block (usually on the right hand side of the block as you are standing in front of the vehicle looking into the engine bay)

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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

hmmm the HBO series Trueblood?

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Which engine? I suspect it has an OM616, which is a four-cylinder diesel engine also used in the 240D sedans.

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M. Dillon
'87 124.193 (300TD) "White Whale", ~392k miles, 3.5l IP fitted
'95 124.131 (E300) "Sapphire", 380k miles
'73 Balboa 20 "Sanctification"
Charleston SC

Thanks, I'm new to this site -
but I believe the engine is a 617.9 - auto.
The vin is European and so I have not been able to check that either.
I have the original MB operating instruction manual, but there was only a printout in German ( I think that was downloaded from some site by the previous owner perhaps years ago ) for the actual owners manual in the van.

Won't actually have the van at my fingertips until Monday ..so can't check that engine number until then, but will post back.
Thanks for all the input!

Found this

http://www.mercedes-club-bg.com/Mercedes%20Benz%20Help%20PDF/Merecedes-Benz-Manuals/Vito%2019995-2002/Mercedes%20207,%20307,%20407,%20209,%20309,%20409D.pdf

Probably what you've already got though...

...It should indeed be a non turbo OM617.913

Mercedes-Benz TN - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You can use the W123 / W126 manuals for the engine over on www.startekinfo.com

You're probably not there yet though - bit of a tricky site to get to work so if you need engine factory service manual (FSM) information you know where to come and get it.

There are a lot of camper nuts on the forum who would appreciate some pictures of your new beast so post 'em up if you want.

There are several people here who can help with the VIN if you post that up too.

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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

Once you have the engine and transmission identified (Russian EPC may provide the vehicle data card?), then you can simply ask questions about anything related to those. All the rest of the body etc. we can probably help if you post pictures.

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Respectfully,
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M. Dillon
'87 124.193 (300TD) "White Whale", ~392k miles, 3.5l IP fitted
'95 124.131 (E300) "Sapphire", 380k miles
'73 Balboa 20 "Sanctification"
Charleston SC

Ok thanks for the info I'll start checking it out.
The vin is 61146810619648
Definitely needs work, have a good roof leak issue - yuck
May reconfigure the inside sleeping arrangements to make it more user friendly - oh boy...
I am sifting through the random instructions brochures/printouts that were left with the thing and of course I see a letter dated from 1991 back to the owner from the German water heater company responding to his inquiry of why the heater isn't working properly...
So will post some pics when I get a hold of it next week - more to come!

for vin wdb61146810619648

Sales designation: 409D
Order number: 7 4 245 00032
The second 4 means it was ordered in 1984 and 245 is Mainz branch and I would say it was ordered very early in 84 since it was the 32 vehicle ordered in the Mainz branch that year.
Paint code 1: 1015
Equipment: 0301
Engine number: 617913 10 000622
Transmission: 720110 00 010537
Steering: 765501 10
Cab: 611503 10 006282
Front axle 1: 730405 16 334649
Rear axle 1: 741520 06 854570
Other info.
Rims: Lemmerz
Lamps: Hella/Hella
Wipers: 084097
Body: 3

awesome score...how did you import it?

Interesting info on the vin - thank you..so all the various numbers attached to items represent identity I guess...what does the 3 mean for body I wonder..?

I did get the 'operators manual ' with it, which I now know is the only owners manual it must have come with - big score there - English too, 1985 everything was simpler then, not like the 3 volumes I have for my 2008 MB cdi....

I bought it from the second owner who actually used it as his mobile office back in the early 1990s. Never went camping, but it was sitting for the last several years just getting started every couple of weeks as I understand. Like all German things it is compactly designed inside and I am not crazy about the bunk beds in the rear of the cabin, so I am gonna rework this for sure. Project ahead..that's the easy part -more concerned with the roof situation...

Engine number: 617.913

OK, so you have a non-turbo 5 cylinder diesel engine. I had an '85 123 wagon that was a grey market euro import, 617.912 engine. A little noisy, but much better than a 4 cylinder.

The 123 factory service manual covers the OM617 engines. Yours will have minor variations because it is installed in a truck instead of a car, but the maintenance and repair procedures should be essentially the same.

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Respectfully,
/s/
M. Dillon
'87 124.193 (300TD) "White Whale", ~392k miles, 3.5l IP fitted
'95 124.131 (E300) "Sapphire", 380k miles
'73 Balboa 20 "Sanctification"
Charleston SC

409 D, box-type van, wheelbase 3700 mm.
Color: 1015 - light ivory
Spec. equipment:
C50 - hydraulic power steering
C55 - ignition switch with steering lock feature
E15 - front right door contact switch
E46 - 2-pole plug socket in cab
E51 - short-range interference suppression
F40 - compound glass windshield
F61 - inside rear view mirror
G40 - automatic transmission
J10 - speedometer, reading in KM/H
J33 - clock
K40 - filler cap with key locking
K60 - exhaust pipe straight to the rear, L.H.D.
L12 - halogen headlamps
L18 - rear fog lamp
L22 - back-up lamp
L94 - elimination of parking light feature
S68 - self-reeling seat belt for diver
S69 - self-reeling seat belt for co-diver
T17 - right "sliding-type" loading door with window
V43 - floor mats in cab
W73 - footstep for rear panel doors, w/o trailer coupling
X30 - vehicle registration book
X31 -
Y10 - first aid box
Y44 - warning triangle
Y45 - emergency lantern
Y60 -

Never dive alone

This fellow might be a resource - 207d Broken Windshield

Sixto
MB-less