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240D Turbo
Hey, anyone know anything about this setup? I emailed the guy and wanted to check here if anyone knows anything about this thing. I've heard of 240D turbos, but know next to nothing about them...
Mercedes 220d 240d turbocharger
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Putting a turbo on an OM616 is not a smart move. Doesnt look like a turbo from a W123 300D either; it would either be a KKK or a Garret (T3?)
I believe there were turbo models of the 240D that were released in I think India, so it might be a setup from that. But I highly doubt it. To run a turbo, you would need better internals (rods pistons etc), so its usually better to get a turbo motor and mate it to the stick if you please.
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http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/...ps988ecb84.jpg 1980 240D "Haley" - 266k mi | OM617.952 | 4-speed | Euro Propshaft | 2.88 Rear | Motor Out of Car 1994 E320 "Lauren" - 115k | As stock as they come 2010 Mazda Axela "Grace" - 32k | H&R Lowering Springs | K&N Air Filter 1981 RX7 - Sold and not really missed Looking for a paint color suggestion for my 240D with Palimono MB-Tex interior! |
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Why not ask the seller how his 616 is?
Some members here have turboed a 616. Head and cam are different for the turbo 61x, I think valve overlap is less or none. Graminal95 comes to mind, maybe OM616 also. Turbo pistons are cooled by oil jets from below. Those who have not thrashed the engine have made a point of watching EGT and keeping it below, 1100 F, I think. Unless you really have the bug and the skills, why not spend a few bills more for a 617 turbo w/ ALDA and IP set up already to provide additional fuel. Most 616 turbos were I think put in Gurkha 4x4's. http://www.forcemotors.com/index.php/vehicle/index/force_gurkha
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It's a Rajay turbo kit that was offered "back in the day". So yes, it was meant for a 240D. It's probably not the most efficient choice for a 240D, but it's about as "bolt on" as you can get for this sort of thing.
Those who say it's a bad idea to turbo a 240D obviously haven't driven one. My '78 is like a "normal" car now I can actually accelerate up hills, and my EGT's don't go over 900 F. Since these motors last 500k without a turbo, I see no reason why they couldn't last 250k or more with a conservative turbo setup.
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Dealer Installed Turbo 240D W115? Old Rajay Turbo Kit 240d
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http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/...ps988ecb84.jpg 1980 240D "Haley" - 266k mi | OM617.952 | 4-speed | Euro Propshaft | 2.88 Rear | Motor Out of Car 1994 E320 "Lauren" - 115k | As stock as they come 2010 Mazda Axela "Grace" - 32k | H&R Lowering Springs | K&N Air Filter 1981 RX7 - Sold and not really missed Looking for a paint color suggestion for my 240D with Palimono MB-Tex interior! |
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Dieseleverytin, WOW. Nice enhancement to your 78!
I recall my former 79 240 D. Nice but agonizing. The 76 was peppy. Probably a different rear end.
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my belief is the "it cant be done" comes direct from mercedes, and the engine is actually overbuilt enough that it can handle mild turbo charging no problem, which incidentally makes a 240 a whole other animal
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My opinion also is that the engine is overbuilt. Reasonable turbo usage if the fuel pressure is good should cause no issues. Poor fuel pressure just might speed up the first cylinders rod bearing wear though in my opinion with a turbo addition if the fuel pressure is too low.
There was a member that modified a five cylinder manifold and seems to have done a really cheap turbo addition. It should be in the archives. Again used reasonably I think there should be no issues. I will do this modification if I ever find the time myself. Someone out there should do the modifications to the five cylinder manifolds as a service. |
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I do think that on the one hand we do have an over engineered engine (with exception of perhaps the piston vacuum pump!); on the other we have AMG who were making kits (although at that time they were not fully owned or controlled by Mercedes); on the other hand we have these other companies bolting on turbos to Petrol and Diesel Mercedes engines; and on the other we have the fuss Mercedes made developing the OM617a (as described in their SAE paper) - and what have we got? A four handed beast!
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I think Bio240D (Chris) reringed and resleeved his OM616 somewhere between 400,000 to 500,000 miles, and although he had run the last 160,000 miles with a turbo, he reported no apparent damage from the increased heat etc.
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Hi Everyone!
Yep! I love my 240D Turbo! I even picked up a vnt 25 for it a while back, but I've been too busy to install it. I'm still running a Garrett T-3 on it. I still make the 5cyl to 4cyl adapter plate too. Check out my posts on it, and if you have any questions PM me. I'm here to help. Cheers! Chris
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Sounds like a plan.
Proceed and take detailed notes/pics. Bio, do you have any links about your effort?
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I hate to admit my ignorance here, but I don't see how to post a link to an old thread, but if you search for "240 D Turbo Adapter Plates for sale" it should come up. This thread has lots of photos showing how I built my 240D Turbo.
Cheers! Chris
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240 D Turbo Adapter Plates for sale
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