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Old 05-28-2014, 12:32 PM
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Anybody in Houston area or southeast Texas renting chain crimper tool?

Hello to the group. I wanted to check if there was anyone close to me here in Houston who would rent me their timing chain crimping tool. I've checked the tool rental forum and just about everybody is pretty far away. Thanks!

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Old 05-28-2014, 12:51 PM
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What is the P/N for the tool? I may buy one.

Edit: Never mind. I found it. Not many out there and not cheap but gotta have it.
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Old 05-28-2014, 01:06 PM
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Heavy Duty Chain Breaker
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This tool removes chain link rivets. It also peens the master link rivet. To peen, simply use one of the two tool push pins IN the anvil spot, instead of the anvil. Use the OTHER push pin, RETRACTED, to push the other side of the pin when you peen the master link. This tool is wide enough to work on a Mercedes W123, double row, timing chain. The actual Mercedes version of this tool is [$]
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Old 05-28-2014, 01:32 PM
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Thank you sir! Checked with harbor freight and they said they have them in stock.
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Old 05-28-2014, 01:59 PM
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This tool removes chain link rivets. It also peens the master link rivet. To peen, simply use one of the two tool push pins IN the anvil spot, instead of the anvil. Use the OTHER push pin, RETRACTED, to push the other side of the pin when you peen the master link. This tool is wide enough to work on a Mercedes W123, double row, timing chain. The actual Mercedes version of this tool is [$]

I get the removal of the chain link with this tool, but I don't get the peening function. I personally wouldn't use a tool like this for peening something as critical as a timing chain on a car... a bicycle, motorcycle, lawnmower, chipper, etc. maybe, but not something that failure means taking out the entire engine and likely stranding you in the process. I just don't see where a push pin can make a proper crimp as shown using the right tool.



Maybe I'm missing something and would be happy to be schooled.
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Old 05-28-2014, 02:26 PM
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I get the removal of the chain link with this tool, but I don't get the peening function. I personally wouldn't use a tool like this for peening something as critical as a timing chain on a car... a bicycle, motorcycle, lawnmower, chipper, etc. maybe, but not something that failure means taking out the entire engine and likely stranding you in the process. I just don't see where a push pin can make a proper crimp as shown using the right tool.



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Mach 4. Which tool was used in the picture you are showing?

Wouldn't the harbor freight tool leave a more symetrical pattern and does it really matter as long as the ends are smashed where their diameter is larger which would prevent the pin from coming out. Isn't that the goal?
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Which tool was used in the picture you are showing?
This one, or something very similar...
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Old 05-28-2014, 02:49 PM
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I get the removal of the chain link with this tool, but I don't get the peening function. I personally wouldn't use a tool like this for peening something as critical as a timing chain on a car... a bicycle, motorcycle, lawnmower, chipper, etc. maybe, but not something that failure means taking out the entire engine and likely stranding you in the process. I just don't see where a push pin can make a proper crimp as shown using the right tool.

Maybe I'm missing something and would be happy to be schooled.
I don't think you are missing anything the description in the Ad:
"Use this heavy duty chain breaker to repair your motorcycle or bicycle chains with strength and ease. Take care of these repairs on your own without having to go to a body shop! A perfect tool for any bike or motorcyclist.
  • Suitable for chain sizes #420, #428, #520, #525, and #530
  • Extracting punch size: 1-1/8" L x 1/8" diameter"
The Real Tool made for the Job has a Magnet that holds the Link Plate in place while you press in onto bolt Shafts of the Master Link. So it gets bottomed out evenly.
You loosen the Tool and move the Tool Head to a different positon and it puts 4 Criimps on the 2 mastar Link Pins all at the same time.
That all at the same time feature cannot be duplicated by a Tool with a single Pin on it.
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Old 05-28-2014, 02:50 PM
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Has anybody on the forum used the Harbor Freight tool they have advertised and what were your results with respect to the quality of crimp? I'm now having doubts buying the Harbor Freight tool.

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Old 05-28-2014, 03:02 PM
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Two US companies make them. Baum Tool and Sir Tool and new and used ones are sold on ebay. The real Mercedes Tools show up on eBay once a Year or so.

You seldom get the Tool with Guides. One for Single Row Chains and one for Double Row Chains. You mosly see the Double Row only ones on eBay.

There is a Made in China (or ?) made one that is about $20 less. I guessing if you needed to re-sell it after use it would not hold value as well as a better brand would.

In the Pic is the China Tool.
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:57 PM
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Here is a good read.How to Replace Your Timing Chain

W. Hunter has one here too. But I think it was not on a OM617.

They are for sale here too. I just cant tell the brand. Price is ok though.
Pelican Parts.com - Timing Chain Crimping Tool

I am looking at the Sir tool or El Paso.
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Here is a good thread CELL did,

9 degrees of chain stretch


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Old 05-29-2014, 10:56 AM
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Is there anybody in Houston or surrounding area that has this crimping tool available for rent? I've decided not to buy the harbor freight tool because I'm not sure about the quality of crimping it may perform.
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:31 PM
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airfoill,

I will PM you when I get one. I am still shopping around. I found the one sold here is Sir Tool.
I will just get the timing chain press right here from Pelican parts. I just sold my 1965 Galaxie so that will help with this and maybe a third Mecereds
I said lets get an old 280SL.. My wife said I should see if Sir Tool Co. had a t-shirt.
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Old 05-29-2014, 08:40 PM
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airfoill,

I will PM you when I get one. I am still shopping around. I found the one sold here is Sir Tool.
I will just get the timing chain press right here from Pelican parts. I just sold my 1965 Galaxie so that will help with this and maybe a third Mecereds
I said lets get an old 280SL.. My wife said I should see if Sir Tool Co. had a t-shirt.
You also need to buy the $48 I think it was part to fit your Double Row Chain.

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