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Old 06-02-2014, 01:36 PM
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Just one more reason to love driving old diesels

I came across this fascinating video recently that might be of interest to this group.


How to Hack a Car: Phreaked Out (Episode 2) - YouTube

One aspect I found particularly interesting was that they are using exactly the same $4 Arduino microcontroller I used in my engine instrumentation project.





The gadget that can hack any CAR: Terrifying £12 tool can remotely control headlights, locks, steering and even brakes

Nothing to worry about in our old non-CAN equipped cars.


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Old 06-02-2014, 02:09 PM
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People always fear what they don't understand. It won't be long before those lacking a basic understanding of code and electronics will be considered illiterate.
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Old 06-02-2014, 02:53 PM
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I have heard about EMP's that can disable all electronic functions, and that would render a majority of the cars on the road today useless. However, our old compression ignition engines will operate without any power source or electronic gadgetry once they are started. A 240 with a manual trans may not even need a battery to start if it was hot and parked on an incline. So yes, there is a great advantage for having these old, simple, robust automobiles. Then there is the subject of fuel availability. You can guess the advantage there to having an old Diesel as well. With the vast array of fuels that will work (in an emergency of course) in these engines, it makes them all the more valuable. Thanks for the great discussion....Rich
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Old 06-02-2014, 03:27 PM
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Nothing to worry about in our old non-CAN equipped cars.
Unless.....they put the green coolant in!

OR hack up the vacuum lines!



OR play with the throttle linkage!



OR...MESS UP OUR SEAT SETTINGS!




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Old 06-02-2014, 05:47 PM
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Unless.....they put the green coolant in!

OR hack up the vacuum lines!



OR play with the throttle linkage!



OR...MESS UP OUR SEAT SETTINGS!




Yes there has got to be a law against those!
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Old 06-02-2014, 06:53 PM
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Heavy duty electrical systems like your starter motor should be fine after a large EMP. EMP has the most effect on small gauge wire and microchips. You might lose your radio and climate control but you can drive without those.
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Old 06-02-2014, 07:33 PM
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What about the glow plug relay?

Not that this can't be bypassed. Just curious.
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Old 06-02-2014, 07:36 PM
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OR...MESS UP OUR SEAT SETTINGS!
That's definitely the most nefarious one.
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Old 06-02-2014, 08:20 PM
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What about the glow plug relay?

Not that this can't be bypassed. Just curious.
Could be shafted.

A few little transistors in there...and an IC in the one variant that I dont have an album for..

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Old 06-02-2014, 09:38 PM
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A Ford starter solenoid and a pushbutton makes a fine glow plug controller in a pinch.
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Yep we have old school everything. I don't think that anything would kill it if I could get some battery juice to crank it. I think I remember reading in the owners manual that the 300D can be tow started if you can get it to 40mph. Never tried.
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:25 AM
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Yep we have old school everything. I don't think that anything would kill it if I could get some battery juice to crank it. I think I remember reading in the owners manual that the 300D can be tow started if you can get it to 40mph. Never tried.
Tow started a 300SE once with a Jeep Wrangler. That was pretty interesting. Was afraid I was going to ram the back of the wrangler!

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