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Old 06-05-2014, 12:22 AM
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1987 300tdt fan clutch interchange

1987 300tdt fan clutch interchange?

anyone know which other models and years had the same fan clutch, I want to see if I can find one in a local salvage yard.

Or does anyone have a good used one for sale?

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Old 06-05-2014, 07:11 AM
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The om606 one is a preferred upgrade.
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Old 06-05-2014, 08:43 AM
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Look for the 98-99 E300D turbo engine.
I don't know offhand if the 96-97 NA used the same fan.

Just did this, new parts are $500 at the dealer with MBCA discount.
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Old 06-05-2014, 09:10 AM
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Look for the 98-99 E300D turbo engine.
I don't know offhand if the 96-97 NA used the same fan.

Just did this, new parts are $500 at the dealer with MBCA discount.
Tell him EVERYTHING you got with that money...

The clutch and fan come out around $140...
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Old 06-05-2014, 05:04 PM
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Uhh

That was 1 clutch and 1 fan blade.
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2013 E350 Bluetec (my DD)

both my kids cars went to junkyard in 2023
2008 ML320 CDI (Older son’s DD) fatal transmission failure, water soaked/fried rear SAM, numerous other issues, just too far gone to save (165k miles)
2008 E320 Bluetec (Younger son's DD) injector failed open and diluted oil with diesel, spun main bearings (240k miles)

1998 E300DT sold to TimFreeh
1987 300TD sold to vstech
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Old 06-05-2014, 05:15 PM
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Ouch. That is a bit rich for me
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Old 06-05-2014, 07:21 PM
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any good used ones for sale?
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Old 06-05-2014, 11:20 PM
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while we are on this subject... why won't a fan clutch and fan from a gasser engine (300TE) work on a diesel engine (300TD)?
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Old 06-06-2014, 02:13 AM
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If clutches are directional, the M103 fan spins the other way.

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Old 06-06-2014, 04:18 AM
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while we are on this subject... why won't a fan clutch and fan from a gasser engine (300TE) work on a diesel engine (300TD)?
I asked that in another thread but had no definitive response, other than to check EPC for info.
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Old 06-06-2014, 07:51 AM
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I noticed the other day that BenzTurbo has a list of modifications to his car (83 300CD) in his sig line. One of them is having a 560 SEL fan and clutch. I asked him: "560 Fan & Clutch - Advantage? Bolt on swap? Is model year of donor important?

He replied that the 560 fan and clutch were a bolt on mod. Aand that the fan has much deeper pitch and moves a more air. He speculated that any 420 or 560 fan and clutch would work but that his install was from a 560SEL.

I posted this a possible clue to the interchangeability of fans/clutches between models/years.

I picked up a 560SEL fan and clutch from an 1989 from local pnp for 25 dollars. I will probably be mounting it today or tomorrow on my 77 300D.
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Old 06-06-2014, 09:32 AM
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Uhh

That was 1 clutch and 1 fan blade.
SERIOUSLY?????

I recommend getting the stuff from PEACHPARTS, not the $tealership...
their price for OEM is only 160ish...
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 06-06-2014, 09:39 AM
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I am speechless that they charged me so much.

If I wasn't pressed for time I would have used da bird.
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The OM 642/722.9 powered family
Still going strong
2014 ML350 Bluetec (wife's DD)
2013 E350 Bluetec (my DD)

both my kids cars went to junkyard in 2023
2008 ML320 CDI (Older son’s DD) fatal transmission failure, water soaked/fried rear SAM, numerous other issues, just too far gone to save (165k miles)
2008 E320 Bluetec (Younger son's DD) injector failed open and diluted oil with diesel, spun main bearings (240k miles)

1998 E300DT sold to TimFreeh
1987 300TD sold to vstech
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Old 06-06-2014, 10:10 AM
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yeah... your dealership really is a ripoff... next time call wayne at my store... cheaper to drive to pineville!
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 06-06-2014, 11:27 AM
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Vstech-
Could you clarify for me as I still need to do this on my 1987 TD... At first you mentioned a price of $140, then you mentioned PPs price for OEM is $160, but the Sachs clutch is $162 and the Trucktec fan is $32 (total = $194). Am I looking at the wrong parts? I guess the discrepancy in the prices has me confused.

Also, the fan Jay_bob purchased is likely to be higher quality than Trucktec, right? Or is Trucktec the OE manufacturer?

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