Need power steering fluid today - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

crazy4diesel · #1 06-14-2014, 05:43 PM

Any ideas? What can I use? Stealership is closed.

my123ca · #2 06-14-2014, 05:50 PM

I use the regular power steering fluid. I think it was a lucas brand i bought at pboys for my w123 300d.
Or you can use the fluid you use for your transmission -Dextron3/mercon?

uberwasser · #3 06-14-2014, 06:04 PM

Most auto stores have a variety of options. Last time I used Valvoline PS fluid. Working fine.

Skippy · #4 06-14-2014, 06:27 PM

Buy the kind that just says "Power Steering Fluid" on the jug.

crazy4diesel · #5 06-14-2014, 07:03 PM

Well, I wasn't sure, sometimes these cars are very picky. Thanks all.

uberwasser · #6 06-14-2014, 07:04 PM

You're right! Thankfully this isn't one of those instances.

pawoSD · #7 06-14-2014, 07:46 PM

Yep in the older ones I just use generic PS fluid. Non-synthetic....

rscurtis · #8 06-14-2014, 08:11 PM

Amsoil universal ATF in my signature car- works fine.

cooljjay · #9 06-14-2014, 11:36 PM

Buy the cheapest stuff, because it will get dark again in a hurry....then drain and repeat....when it becomes clear.....get some better stuff

97 SL320 · #10 06-15-2014, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by crazy4diesel

Any ideas? What can I use? ............ is closed.

Your term for a dealership is offensive. Let me offer a few suggestions:

Perhaps you should consider a less complicated car.

Instead of whining that the "big man" is holding the "little man" down, why not work on becoming a "big man" . ( Or at least a bigger man. )

Invest millions of $ in a dealership then set the prices / service level where you deem acceptable to those that use your descriptor. Shortly you will see that running a business isn't as easy as you think. And yes, if someone risks lots of $, they are entitled to make a profit. The wonderful thing about capitalism is that , more or less, it is self balancing. If a business charges too much, has poor product or service, others will swoop in and fill the void. . . .rather that just sit there and complain.

I doubt you will do any of these. .

I also would request that the moderators add his dealership term to the list of restricted words and anyone that uses formatting to get around the word be told not to do that again.

Remember, when they are posting degrading comments about a factory dealership, they are not too far from using the same descriptor for Peach Parts.

rocky raccoon · #11 06-15-2014, 09:30 AM

So sorry that you find that term offensive. Perhaps if dealership prices for parts were more in line with the aftermarket prices for the identical parts, people would be less inclined to offend you.

I agree however that your labor costs reasonably reflect factory training and special tools.

TheDon · #12 06-15-2014, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 97 SL320

Your term for a dealership is offensive. Let me offer a few suggestions:

Perhaps you should consider a less complicated car.

Instead of whining that the "big man" is holding the "little man" down, why not work on becoming a "big man" . ( Or at least a bigger man. )

Invest millions of $ in a dealership then set the prices / service level where you deem acceptable to those that use your descriptor. Shortly you will see that running a business isn't as easy as you think. And yes, if someone risks lots of $, they are entitled to make a profit. The wonderful thing about capitalism is that , more or less, it is self balancing. If a business charges too much, has poor product or service, others will swoop in and fill the void. . . .rather that just sit there and complain.

I doubt you will do any of these. .

I also would request that the moderators add his dealership term to the list of restricted words and anyone that uses formatting to get around the word be told not to do that again.

Remember, when they are posting degrading comments about a factory dealership, they are not too far from using the same descriptor for Peach Parts.

Chill out dude.

I can guarantee you that the dealership closest to me turns their nose up at me when I roll in to the service dept with my 40 year old diesel and overcharge on parts.so they are in my book, a stealership. Thankfully I found a better dealership that wants me as a customer and my money, not me as an image enhancer for their sales floor.

It's the same across all makes, so,e dealerships charge more because they can.

If you've got a problem with words, message your moderator team.

uberwasser · #13 06-15-2014, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 97 SL320

Your term for a dealership is offensive. Let me offer a few suggestions:

Perhaps you should consider a less complicated car.

Instead of whining that the "big man" is holding the "little man" down, why not work on becoming a "big man" . ( Or at least a bigger man. )

Invest millions of $ in a dealership then set the prices / service level where you deem acceptable to those that use your descriptor. Shortly you will see that running a business isn't as easy as you think. And yes, if someone risks lots of $, they are entitled to make a profit. The wonderful thing about capitalism is that , more or less, it is self balancing. If a business charges too much, has poor product or service, others will swoop in and fill the void. . . .rather that just sit there and complain.

I doubt you will do any of these. .

I also would request that the moderators add his dealership term to the list of restricted words and anyone that uses formatting to get around the word be told not to do that again.

Remember, when they are posting degrading comments about a factory dealership, they are not too far from using the same descriptor for Peach Parts.

What about when the word is totally appropriate?

For example, the dealer which baited me by giving me much lower prices over the phone for a list of part #'s and then switched me by charging much more at the counter. Not to mention, over the phone they said they honored the MB Club discount but when I asked at the parts counter they looked at me like I was the crazy one.

I paid, which barely mustered a half-hearted "Thanks" from the parts counter person, as I was picking up those parts same day as doing the work. But I didn't have to - if I was give accurate pricing over the phone I would have gone elsewhere. I ordered the parts a week in advance, ample time to order from an online retailer. Never again will I go to that stealership.

All the while they pamper their new car buyers with a coffee lounge, free wi-fi, cushy leather chairs, and huge smiling faces (no matter how forced). You can see where their priority lies. It does little to endear this crowd to them. So you can hardly be surprised by the attitude towards them.

crazy4diesel · #14 06-15-2014, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 97 SL320

Your term for a dealership is offensive. Let me offer a few suggestions:

Perhaps you should consider a less complicated car.

Instead of whining that the "big man" is holding the "little man" down, why not work on becoming a "big man" . ( Or at least a bigger man. )

Invest millions of $ in a dealership then set the prices / service level where you deem acceptable to those that use your descriptor. Shortly you will see that running a business isn't as easy as you think. And yes, if someone risks lots of $, they are entitled to make a profit. The wonderful thing about capitalism is that , more or less, it is self balancing. If a business charges too much, has poor product or service, others will swoop in and fill the void. . . .rather that just sit there and complain.

I doubt you will do any of these. .

I also would request that the moderators add his dealership term to the list of restricted words and anyone that uses formatting to get around the word be told not to do that again.

Remember, when they are posting degrading comments about a factory dealership, they are not too far from using the same descriptor for Peach Parts.

I'm sorry you find it offensive, but there is no need to be offensive to me. You're response was personal and rude. Making assumptions of what I will or will not do, or suggestions of what I should do is hubris and arrogant.

I use the term for my LOCAL dealership because it's true! I've bought many parts from an out of state dealership and been delighted with their service. You are very wrong that others will "swoop in and fill the void" of lousy customer care. Dealerships are award with a local area, our next dealership is miles away, so it is very much a monopolistic enterprise. The mausoleums they build are their choice, their own ego and pride at work.

When a retailer charges me $4.30 for a washer that goes in the manual shifter I think the price is high. But, when I find out the MSRP for that washer is $2.70 and another dealer out of state will sell it for $2.03, what other terms is appropriate for my local dealership? That is just out and out robbery. I do not expect a discount from MSRP, but if it were a car, listing for $50,000 and the dealer wanted $79,500 the tune would be different, no one of course would pay a 59% ADDITIONAL markup over list, but that exactly what my local dealer does with parts.

Your cries for censorship are typical, for a capitalism zealot. While it is the best system there is, sadly, when greed takes over, capitalism doesn't always work the way it should. There are cartels and monopolies, when this happens the system struggles, and the consumer is the one left with the short end of the stick. Doubt it? Wait another 5 years and see how much more horrible air travel becomes with only 3 major airlines in the US, already there are massive degradations for frequent flyer programs, which like domino's one airline adopted right after the other. That is cartel behavior, do you suggest changing airlines? To which one? Dealerships aren't like this, but they act with dishonor all too often, it is their behavior and has caused terms like this to be created and applied to them, I didn't invent by any means, but where the shoe fits, so it is.

Zacharias · #15 06-15-2014, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 97 SL320

Your term for a dealership is offensive.

No, it is not. It is humorous and, in many instances fair comment.

I have been on a variety of Internet mailing lists and forums for various makes since 1992 and it is used in one variety or another everywhere, in reference to dealers of many makes. Along with some less complimentary terms. If you think what people say here about dealers is bad, go join a Volvo forum. Or VW.

This is a forum for owners to share expertise -- and part of that is we get to complain, vent and otherwise say what is on our mind unless it's offensive or legally actionable. The OP's comment is neither.

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Originally Posted by 97 SL320

I also would request that the moderators add his dealership term to the list of restricted words and anyone that uses formatting to get around the word be told not to do that again.

That is ridiculous, but it's symptomatic of how the auto industry has traditionally approached criticism. I was editor of a newsletter for a small, non-profit car club some years ago where I published a purely factual account of a club member's experiences with a lemon. The (major european, not MB) auto firm contacted us immediately -- not to offer assistance, or inquire on the problem, but to threaten to sue the club and me personally for the article... that was seen by 120 people.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 97 SL320

Remember, when they are posting degrading comments about a factory dealership, they are not too far from using the same descriptor for Peach Parts.

You just don't get it.