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W123 85 300D with W126 OM617 installed, Condenser fan not working
I bought this car as a basket case from a gentleman that was having a mobile mechanic install the low mileage engine out of his 300SD which was very rusty into his 300D. He managed to get the old engine out, disassembled some of it, and never showed back up. So, I purchased it a couple years back, bolted the engine in enough to load it on a trailer, and eventually got around to finishing the job. I was able to get the A/C blowing very cold, but when my wife drives it, it's generally in town, and because the aux fan is not working, the performance of the system is suffering. I found during the swap that MANY things are different between the chassis's. Tach setup, oil filter housing, oil pressure (sender vs. mechanical), and many other items. So, I was wondering before I go into this too far, is there a party here that knows both chassis well enough to understand what if anything could be the culprit with a W126 OM617 in a W123? Temp switch setup differently? Would it be easier to just wire the fan so it turns when the AC is on? Although that would disrupt any engine protective abilities (and my wife is NOT one to watch gauges).
Any thoughts on what needs to be done with this mongrel? Thanks in advance!!
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the temp switches that turn the condenser fan on often fail, or just don't work. there is a modification that's been posted here to wire the fan to come on when the a/c compressor comes on. i've done a similar and simpler mod by wiring the fan to a switch in the cabin that i control manually.
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There is a temp switch on the filter/drier that turns on the aux fan for the purpose of lowering high side pressure. Try shorting the connectors and see if e fan comes on. If so, replace the switch. Since it's a temp switch rather than pressure sensor, you can replace it without losing charge.
Hope this helps.
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What "engine protective abilities" would be affected?
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Quote:
F S- Accessory for A/C compressor clutch and condenser fan to run together
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I thought that it also would activate the fans in high coolant temps like in later models. Looks like it's strictly only for the AC
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Yes, but of all the MB Diesel cars I have had (and I have had many), never once has the aux fan been called to work other than when the A/C has been on.
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All Diesel Fleet 1985 R107 300SLD TURBODIESEL 2005 E320 CDI (daily) LOTS of parts for sale! EGR block kit http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/355250-sale-egr-delete-block-off-plate-kit.html 1985 CA emissions 617 owners- You Need This! Sanden style A/C Compressor Mounting Kit for your 616/ 617 For Sale + Install Inst. Sanden Instalation Guide (post 11): http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/367883-sanden-retrofit-installation-guide.html |
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The W140 I have does. I only know that because the fans once turned on without the compressor harness attached.
Anyway, I shorted the temp switch wiring, off the accumulator, and it now works perfectly. 90+ degrees out, and vent temp got down to 37. Nice. Thank you too all.
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1987 300SDL #1, 1987 300SDL #2, 1980 240D, 1982 300SD, 1994 S350, 1990 350SDL, 1991 350SD, 1985 300D, 2005 E320CDI Gone, but not forgotten: 1981 300SD, 1982 300SD, 1987 300SDL, 1983 300TD, 1980 300CD, 1981 300SD #2, 1987 300D, 1987 300TDT, 1980 300D |
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