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Old 08-08-2014, 08:31 PM
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Bilstein Bushings

First of all, hello and thank you to everyone who contributes to this forum. I have been lurking for the last 2 years reading up on repairs that I needed for my '85 300D and for repairs that I plan on completing in the future. You've all been so helpful. Which brings me to my first post asking for help.

I'm installing new Bilstein shocks up front and am having a difficult time deciphering the "Ikea like" drawings that are supposed to be instructions. The old one came out without a problem and the lower bracket is attached. The kit came with 2 bushings along with the dust sleeve, a wide washer and the nylon locking nut. My problem is that with the both bushings in place, I don't have any thread showing to tighten down the nut. Am I supposed to use both bushings? When I took off my very old shock, there was only 1 bushing on the top under the washer and double nuts. Any timely advice would be appreciated. I was hoping to get the car back on the road tomorrow but I'm losing daylight.

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Old 08-08-2014, 08:40 PM
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You definitely use both bushings, yes. Your first photo illustrates the problem you're having. One 'stop disk' and one bushing go onto the shock shaft below the body mount point. And note the orientation of the lower disk, per the diagram (usually? hopefully?) included in the Bilstein package. There's a machined groove in the lower one - as I recall - which mates perfectly with the upper end of the shock shaft. It'll all seem pretty logical when you see how the lower one orients onto the shaft. And I think the lower one is mounted concavity downward, not upward - perhaps counterintuitive.

My fronts also have a bump stop (15 cm long?) over the shaft, with a plastic shroud/dust cover(?) over that.

Raise the control arm just a tad with your jack to compress the shock slightly; this will expose just enough of the threads to attach lock nut.
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Old 08-08-2014, 09:51 PM
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Only 1 disk washer came with the shock. I guess I'll use that one on the underside closest to the shock. And I guessed that if I compressed the spring a little, it might draw up. Does my kindergarden diagram show the correct sequence?
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Old 08-09-2014, 08:13 AM
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You definitely need two washers...

Luckily, looks like you have the lower one. Check the machined groove in it - this will guide you as to its orientation: concavity up or down*. Lower rubber buffer is next. Fit shaft through mount point in body, place upper rubber buffer, then the large flat washer on top - Sounds like you don't have this one? Source a big, beefy washer anywhere to fit this bill. If it isn't obvious, its diameter should be a bit larger than that of the rubber buffer it's facing...

*On the bottom end of my rear shocks, lower stop washer was oriented concavity down, directly off the Bilstein product insert. Machined groove in this 'stop washer' also made it clear. Mine is an SD - the setup looks different. Don't know your car.

In addition, on my car, there is a bump stop over the shaft -this is about 15cm long(?)- then a plastic dust cover over all that. Separate parts on my car - dunno what shocks look like on yours. Your setup also has a bellows, doesn't it?

Google search finds many diagrams of this shock setup.
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Old 08-09-2014, 08:17 AM
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The order from bottom to top for a w126 is:
Bump stop
Flat plate (sitting on the snap ring on the shock)
Protective boot
Rubber bushing
Fender
Rubber bushing
Concave up metal plate
Nut

Both the plates are highly necessary. Re-use the old ones if they didn't come with the shocks.

EDIT: Just realized you said 300D, not 300SD. Different chassis from what I know, so don't take my word on it.
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Old 08-10-2014, 12:52 AM
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One bushing goes on top, the other is below the metal.

See my thread for diagrams I've included.

W123 Bilstein shocks replacement - photo documentary

Front shock:

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