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There was a sweet 95 E300D with ~50k on it that a crazy member paid 5 figures for about a year ago... I'll have to find his username...
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So is $10k+ the price range of 86+ diesels worth buying? I can't imagine there are many left that are actually worth that. It's certainly more than I could spend on one.
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they do seems to be prone to rust
I don think this board is too prone to over-exaggeration, that being said I was surprised to see the amount of hits google gets on w210 rust repair-images. Lots and lots of pictures from USA to Europe. Really quite damning.
Mercedes w210 rust repair - YouTube Mercedes W210 E-Class Repair -This shows places rust is found behind the panels and area not readily visible. So whats the "rust" discount one should factor into buying one of these. I want one, but this rust issue seems to be a real non starter. To be fair, one gets a lot of hits for the 124 too, but its an older car/model. Treetops |
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I live in northern California where cars don't normally rust, but there are some w210s on Craigslist with a scary amount of rust already (like body panels with holes in them).
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I really love my 87 300D. I bought it about 8 years ago with about 170,000 miles. Now I have around 260,000. It has been very kind to me and fun to drive. I did have to have the front and rear end rebuilt at about 250,000, but now it drives like a new car again. Ball joints, struts, springs, tie rods, links in the rear. Still on the original flex discs though. no sign of wear.
When i bought it, i put a new belt tensioner on it, just preventative. Its been into me for a radiator, and a starter. still the original #14 head. The 124s dont seem to have the rust issues that the 210 has, at least in the midwest. I bought a 95 E300D for my wife, it is a bit slower off the line than my 87, but returns between 32, and 37 mpg reliably. My daughter has a 87 300TD. Solid cars, and rarely does anything come up that I can't figure out.
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Choices Choices
Heres a real world question for you all. Two cars:91 300d(turbo) and a 97 e300(NA). Both with about the same miles: 130K and in good(91 if IP leak is fixed-delivery valve IMO) running condition, windows, sunroof, HVAC work as should, drive straight and suspension feels tight. Both the same price 4.5K prior to negotiation and have clean carfax reports, 97 with dealer service. To me they both have the very similar acceleration feels, so I think they are on the same level in the turbo vs NA regard.
91 has no visable rust and has been driven very little, 28K in the last 10 yrs. 97 a DD and is showing rust on the Fender wells and front rocker panels-no idea behind the liners or hidden areas and dont think I can really pull things apart to check as part of a purchase offer. They both have minor non structural body damage, see photos. So Im leaning to the 91 really due to condition and potential longevity. The 97 is really nice on the inside and out(when fender is fixed), but the rust, spring perch, flukey electronics(incl transmission conductor)..etc potential are the hold backs. Heh, w/o the rust concern I think I could live with the 97. Love to hear what you would choose if given a 3500 purchase price and a couple grand to go toward upkeep/improvements? Treetops |
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Once my s124 project is finished the w210 will be sold, sad to see it go as faultless, no rust and never missed a beat. Here in the UK they are starting to get rare, second hand parts for the diesels are almost non existent so they should hold their value too. Good luck with whatever decision you make.
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I have both a 92 and a 99 the 92 2.5td has no rust issues but CCU had failed and I did a lot of maintenance catch up aux fans, head gasket to name a few but is now about 100% very nice car. The 99 I have only replaced brakes and a window regulator but yearly need to repair rust mostly body visual items. Very nice car otherwise quiet powerful as compared to the 92. I really dislike body work this year rust control will cost 1750 and next year at least 500. The 92 is more economical overall with maintenance and operating costs. Both are good.
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Is this the kind of thing people by a good one?
Mint One Owner 1995 Mercedes Benz E300D w124 diesel 103k miles Original, black on black with leather upgrade, not mb-tex. Have original window sticker showing options, over $42k new. Less than 104,000 miles. Mobil1 synthetic oil. Michelin tires. Gold package. You won't find another one like this anywhere. California car since new. Flawless car. Recent service. Private sale. I am not really in a position to buy something like that, or to pay $6500 for a project car, and based on my experience selling my 300SD (anything much over 300k miles is worth at most a couple hundred more than scrap value), I am not sure that the cheaper ones would work out well either. I could afford something like this (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/4721842227.html), and have enough money left over for normal maiintaince if needed, but if it is as unreliable and expensive to keep on the road as it sounds like most of them are that might not be so good. |
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if it were me I'd go for the 98 but at a lower price I don't hink these are worth more than 4k at that kind of mileage. A California car shouldn't have too much rust, but you have to be sure IMO.
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I think we're seeing some examples of overpriced Craigslist ads. I know these things are very regional....but here in the Northeast you can find nice condition 98-99 E300s reasonable mileage for $5000 or so....I know because I've bought two in the last year.
That 95 E300 for $15,000 is just ridiculous.
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I went and looked at the black e300. He actually had 2, that one and a tan one. Neither were California cars, although I didn't see any rust on either one. But, the interior in both of them was pretty nasty, and they both had a lot of dents and worn suspension parts. I only drove the black one, and it wasn't bad, although he said it won't shift out of first gear for half a mile or so of driving when its cold out unless you pull over and turn the car off then back on again. Any idea what that could be? Either way, I did like the om606 turbo engine and the way the car drove, but both of those would have to have been more like $2k or less to seem like a good idea. If I can find any better ones I may go try one of those. Diesel car prices are very high here, probably 50% higher than a lot of the rest of the country.
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If you're looking at a W210, the thing to look for is...a W124. I've owned 123's, 201's, 210's, and 124's. Would never touch a 210, no matter the price or apparent condition. OTH, the 124's are among the best cars ever made. Yes, the 95's had some issues with wiring harnesses, but as a group, they are incredibly solid, reliable, modern-feeling cars. I think the best are the early 90's cars with the 2.5 turbos, but that's a matter of taste. The '87's with the 203 motors are wonderful, too.
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