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Old 10-19-2014, 11:38 PM
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Pulling a tranny on a 190

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A friend put me onto a 190 gasser in a wrecking yard with a 5 speed tranny on it. I started to pull the tranny, but eventually just pulled the motor, as it seemed to be easier in the long run. Is it possible to pull a tranny on a 190 gasser or diesel with out the engine, or is pulling the engine the best way?

I pulled the tranny since they don't seem to come up here very often, and I wanted one on hand if a 190D came my way. I pulled the tranny, flywheel, tranny support cross piece, drive line, clutch and brake petal assembly, hydraulic line to clutch, fluid reservoir, and shifter. Should I have pulled the instrument cluster with the speedometer? The starter looked pretty clean. Does the starter fit a diesel? Should I have pulled anything else?

I discovered I had forgotten my chains, as I had not intended to pull the engine. I ended up using the method Charlie (Charmalu) mentioned using seat belts. Worked like a charm! Thanks for mentioning it!

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Walter

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Old 10-20-2014, 01:09 AM
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Get the cluster if you are going to change the diff, for easier driving... And the diff of course.
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Old 10-20-2014, 01:11 AM
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Starter will not work on a diesel. It would fit, but NAT be able to start the motor
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 10-20-2014, 11:09 AM
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Get the cluster if you are going to change the diff, for easier driving... And the diff of course.
John,

Could you elaborate on the "easier driving"? I am familiar with the 123 and 116 body styles, but have no idea what gear ratios are in the 190D's.

Anything I should know about pulling the differential? I've not pulled one of these.

Thanks!

W.
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Old 10-20-2014, 11:44 AM
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if your 190D is an automatic, it's got 2.65 or thereabouts ratio in the diff...

putting a clutch in front of that will make stoplights sluggish, and hills a smoking slide back I'd think.

the gasser likely has a taller ratio, so pulling it, and putting it and the matching speedo in could help the day to day driveability...
I am not sure what ratio you have in your car, nor what ratio the donor vehicle has, I'm just mentioning it since you mentioned the cluster.

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"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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