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Old 12-01-2014, 07:06 AM
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KOMBI Estate 1977-1985
Saloon 1976-1985

Does that include my four door ? Is that one of those boot/trunk deals ?
It could include your sedan / saloon (was that the terminology you wanted?) but it does not necessarily mean there should be a "vibration eliminator" fitted. Chapter 41-050 is not particularly clear on the subject. I get the impression that the "vibration eliminator" is fitted to manual gearbox drive trains only - and those that only have the complaint flex disc (only at the front).

This chapter does, however, say it can not be replaced (and that the whole front section of the propshaft should be replaced if the vibration eliminator is damaged).

Note the W201 FSM doesn't make the same fuss about the vibration eliminator - it doesn't even mention what you are meant to do if it is damaged. I must add, however, that the W123 FSM is fan-bloody-tastic and the W201 one is a little bit Haynes...

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It could include your sedan / saloon ..... Chapter 41-050 is not particularly clear on the subject. I get the impression that the "vibration eliminator" is fitted to manual gearbox drive trains only - and those that only have the complaint flex disc (only at the front).......
I have mentioned that ' complaint / firm ' situation way back in the past... it is confusing and I suspect one can not use ' replacement of what is on the car ' as a safe method... since on old cars it could easily have been replaced by the wrong firmness.... and without having seen it in the FSM anyone might just order without knowing that they needed the combination of firm and complaint on the same car at the same time.... Some people might find the cure for the manual trans swap vibrations in this flex disc and vibration damper info.
So ' saloon equals sedan ' generally ?
I thought it meant a place with half size swinging doors that served alcohol.
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Old 12-01-2014, 09:33 AM
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I have a euro with manual trans, and manual dual heat controls... 84, 300d... For sale. In Gastonia NC
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NA ? How much ?
I'm asking $2K for the car, it has everything anyone would need to make their own car a manual, or with a little rust repair, on the lower body panels, they can simply drive this euro NA manual 300D.

the driveshaft is factory, and correct length, the flywheel is balanced to the 5cylinder 300, and it is correct 38lbs.
the shifter body needs lube, or bushings, as it sticks in the 1-2 position.
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Old 12-01-2014, 10:46 AM
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I think the best diesel Benz is a 240D with manual everything. Less stuff to break. The 4cyl engines seem to hold up just as well as the 5cyl.

It seems that the costliest repairs on these old cars are automatic things breaking. Sunroof, windows, auto transmission, etc.

I've actually been contemplating trading one of my cars for a manual everything 240D.
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Old 12-01-2014, 11:34 AM
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I have mentioned that ' complaint / firm ' situation way back in the past... it is confusing and I suspect one can not use ' replacement of what is on the car ' as a safe method... since on old cars it could easily have been replaced by the wrong firmness.... and without having seen it in the FSM anyone might just order without knowing that they needed the combination of firm and complaint on the same car at the same time.... Some people might find the cure for the manual trans swap vibrations in this flex disc and vibration damper info.
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I the compliant ones do look different





I hope nobody would fit the wrong one.

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So ' saloon equals sedan ' generally ?
I thought it meant a place with half size swinging doors that served alcohol.
Saloon == sedan for cars. It is a car only situation!

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