I am in the market for a 1977-1984 MB W123 car. I am looking for a non-sunroof model and having a hard time finding one. Do all 1982-1984 300d come with sunroofs? Are non-sunroof models only available on the 240d?
Thanks!

I may be selling my W115 '76 240D in the spring and it doesn't have a sunroof.

Are you on the North American continent ?

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1980 240d ,

chain elongation, cam marks reference:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/10414-help-i-need-check-stretch.html

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html

evap fin cleaning:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator

A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

Why? They work and don't leak.

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85SD 240K & stopped counting painted, putting bac together. 84SD 180,000. sold to a neighbor and member here but I forget his handle. The 84 is much improved from when I had it. 85TD beginning to repair to DD status. Lots of stuff to do.

Have you read in the archives ?

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1980 240d ,

chain elongation, cam marks reference:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html

evap fin cleaning:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator

A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

Generally, the only non-sunroof models are 240D's. There's a non-sunroof 240D in the Phoenix area for sale right now, for example.

'82 Mercedes Benz 240D

Any models above the 300D back then got sunroofs in the US.

Station wagons have the upside of all having manual sunroofs, so no motor and cable issues to deal with.

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Nice looking 240, too bad it is an automatic.

I agree it seems the 240D was the only W123 that came with out the sun roof. Our 80 does not have one, and I like that. I also have the 78 and it does not have one.

I have seen a few 123 sedans with a manual sun roof. They may have been grey market models.


Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

My '81 300TD wagon does not have a sunroof.

In general, I think this is good. One less thing.

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1981 300TD 310k miles
1970 280sel 172k miles
1966 230 Fintail 162k miles

"Where are we going? And why am I in this hand basket?"

Yeah, I have two wagons in the driveway that definitely read the archives LOL.

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Mac
2002 e320 4matic estate│1985 300d│1980 300td
Previous: 1979 & 1982 & 1983 300sd │ 1982 240d

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For one thing no sunroof cuts down on flooded floor rust contributions. Total non issue without those drains

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My 81 wagon did not have a sunroof either.....

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1980 240d ,

chain elongation, cam marks reference:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html

evap fin cleaning:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator

A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

I don't think the sun roof drains can be blamed for all of the floor rot.

The spring pocket areas can leak if neglected.

The front windscreens are also known to leak.

On rarer occasions the gutter that feeds air to the heater core can also cause trouble if neglected.

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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

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Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

Many of the European W123 lower specification models such as the 200 / 200T and the 200D and the 220D quite often left the factory without holes in their roofs as well as the 240D!

On the whole it is more likely not to see a sunroof on a four cylinder engined vehicle - but that isn't "a rule"

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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

I was thinking more specifically of the flooding from clogged or rusted drains. Non issue as in now you dont have to bother with worrying about that water source

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Fair enough - also nice not to have that wave over the edge of the bath effect when you open the sun roof for that first time in the summer! (On that rare rare day when there's a strange yellow thing hanging where the clouds usually are)

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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!