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TnBob · #31 12-22-2014, 05:35 PM

For us DIYers, most of the big box auto stores rent speciality tools cheeep

leathermang · #32 12-22-2014, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BillGrissom

..... There must be a strong structure (i.e. heavy) up high to support the spring. If T-bars are superior, seems strange that some Mopar owners weld in an after-market coil-over conversion kit (>$3K).

That strong structure also incorporates an adjustment mechanism... So if time and corrosion have take their toll.. then it would be hard to repair that mechanism..... and it was important that the height be adjusted to level ... I think they factory spec required one quarter of an inch or less difference side to side.. and if it was not it gave a wavy ride not found on coil spring cars.. which of course did not have adjustments available at all... so many bit the dust due to mechanics not knowing how to keep them adjusted properly...
Only you and I would think of those torsion bars used on the hoods of those cars.... lol

leathermang · #33 12-24-2014, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BillGrissom

..... If T-bars are superior, seems strange that some Mopar owners weld in an after-market coil-over conversion kit (>$3K).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIuo82fubVA

At One minute thirty seven seconds of that video... you can see the advantage of a torsion bar suspension at the rear....
that extreme travel would not be possible with coil or leaf springs.... look at how level the body is... with the travel of the rear wheels so extreme...

adamkat22 · #34 12-26-2014, 10:19 AM

my bushing arrived and i'm going to try and install today. i'll get a variety of 13mm bolts (don't know exact length that's needed). i'm wondering what i should be putting pressure/leverage on to try and get things lined back up? the sway bar?

vstech · #35 12-26-2014, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by leathermang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIuo82fubVA

At One minute thirty seven seconds of that video... you can see the advantage of a torsion bar suspension at the rear....
that extreme travel would not be possible with coil or leaf springs.... look at how level the body is... with the travel of the rear wheels so extreme...

um... that car has coil springs...

it does have a torsion antisway bar...

leathermang · #36 12-26-2014, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by vstech

um... that car has coil springs...

I thought I saw an exploded view lately using mopar style longitudinal torsion bars at the rear in combo with that transverse coil spring.... maybe I was dreaming...

Looks like they got that extreme range of movement with the coil springs placed near the center line of the car... so they do not bottom out like ours do way before that much movement...

vstech · #37 12-26-2014, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by leathermang

I thought I saw an exploded view lately using mopar style longitudinal torsion bars at the rear in combo with that transverse coil spring.... maybe I was dreaming...

Looks like they got that extreme range of movement with the coil springs placed near the center line of the car... so they do not bottom out like ours do way before that much movement...

yeah, looking at the suspension of that car, I'm amazed. it's a split solid axle car with a center pivot, and spring... and coil springs at the wheels...

adamkat22 · #38 12-26-2014, 04:06 PM

does anyone have specs on the bolt that holds that front torsion bar bushing in place? i got the bushing today but it doesn't come with a bolt. i'd like to go back to fix the car with everything i need handy because there isn't a hardware store anywhere near the place i parked it. worse case scenario i show up with lots of sizes/lengths and hope something works but figured i'd see if anyone knows its size offhand...

Stretch · #39 12-27-2014, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by adamkat22

does anyone have specs on the bolt that holds that front torsion bar bushing in place? i got the bushing today but it doesn't come with a bolt. i'd like to go back to fix the car with everything i need handy because there isn't a hardware store anywhere near the place i parked it. worse case scenario i show up with lots of sizes/lengths and hope something works but figured i'd see if anyone knows its size offhand...

I assume you mean the bolt that goes through the bushing on the upper control arm and into the front torsion bar => For something like that I would just go and buy the bolt at the dealer - it is a kind of mission critical bit.

I have no way of telling you the grade or size of the bolt or the pitch of the thread at the moment.

adamkat22 · #40 12-27-2014, 06:39 PM

The bolt ended up being m10-1.5 . I used a 40mm long one...which wAs a little too long but I threw a few extra fender washers on and will replace with the correct length tomorow. Even though everything was out of line, it all pulled itself into place as I tightened the bolt. Thanks for everyone's help.