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Old 08-30-2015, 01:01 AM
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very cool.
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Old 08-30-2015, 04:27 AM
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Great patina! Looking very good! I am jealous of the progress as mine is stalled out at present. My builder is stymied by the wiring harness on my Mercedes steering column.

On the insulation, I'd be concerned about the smoke generated in case of a fire. Did you try burning some of that material you used? Where is that product designed to be used on a building?
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Old 08-30-2015, 08:02 AM
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Great patina! Looking very good! I am jealous of the progress as mine is stalled out at present. My builder is stymied by the wiring harness on my Mercedes steering column.

On the insulation, I'd be concerned about the smoke generated in case of a fire. Did you try burning some of that material you used? Where is that product designed to be used on a building?
Yes, it is very frustrating when a project gets stalled. In your case, the unique and super cool truck will be well worth the wait.

MB wiring is "different!" Figuring out wiring and switches by methodically testing with an ohm meter is very time consuming.

I checked specs on the Peel & Seal roofing product before using. It has a UL Class “A” Fire Rating which if defined as “effective against severe fire exposure.”

Had not thought much about smoke. So this morning I did the burn test you suggested. Peel and Seal will burn with a propane torch flame directly on the back side, but it is a slow burn and stops as soon as the torch is removed. Takes a few seconds to even get a flame. Not much smoke.

Not so with Dynamat under hood liner (which I used to cut down on the bucket of bolts noise)! Tested it as well. Burns quickly with lots of smoke. Pic below (placed on cardboard for the pic, after they had cooled!)



In comparison, I had the flame on the Peel & Seal much longer than on the Dynamat. Dynamat inside insulation products are much different that their under hood liner, however.

I'm much more concerned about smoke from wiring inside the cab than from the insulation. I had a 3' commercial Chinese wire with alligator clips for a ground when testing a wiper motor. Had a 15 amp fuse on the hot side. The Chinese wire overheated and filled the shop with acrid smoke.
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Old 08-30-2015, 10:35 AM
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So in your test both materials passed the smoke test?
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Old 08-30-2015, 04:31 PM
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So in your test both materials passed the smoke test?
No, the Dynamat hoodliner quickly went up in flames with lots of smoke! Basically, the hoodliner is about 3/4" of closed cell foam with aluminum tin foil covering. It does a good job of cutting down on the noise of an OM617. For the next project, I think I will just get the egg crate foam (without cover). It is much cheaper and may work better.
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Old 11-06-2015, 06:54 PM
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Finished! For the time being, anyhow. I'm taking a break from the build to enjoying driving it.

In the future I plan to install new glass, door weatherstripping, AC, etc.

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Old 11-06-2015, 07:40 PM
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Finished!
Ha! They're never finished. My swap has been on the road for three years and I'm still finding little projects to make it "more finished".

Today I spent most of the day programming changes into my bluetooth gauges display...and last week re-did the remote keyless entry...and before that re-did the fuel pressure sensor...and soon new seat covers...

Great looking project...it would be fun to catch up with you on one of my road trips and compare notes.
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I still have to put the seat, headliner and suspension in my 83SD and that doesn't even require fabrication. Winter's coming I'm told.

I notices ~10 50s era trucks in a body shop near here. The guy may be willing to sell some if anyone is interested.
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Old 11-06-2015, 08:07 PM
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Looks very good!

That was the look I was going to go for to begin with.
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Old 11-06-2015, 08:24 PM
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Looks very good!

That was the look I was going to go for to begin with.
Considering how rare you Studebaker is, I'm glad you decided to make it shiny!!
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Old 11-06-2015, 08:28 PM
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Ha! They're never finished. My swap has been on the road for three years and I'm still finding little projects to make it "more finished".

Today I spent most of the day programming changes into my bluetooth gauges display...and last week re-did the remote keyless entry...and before that re-did the fuel pressure sensor...and soon new seat covers...

Great looking project...it would be fun to catch up with you on one of my road trips and compare notes.
Mach4,

I've been following your 'puter thread, but not sure i have the fortitude to deal with all that electrickery!

Let me know if you are ever in the deep South or ATL area and we will try to get together.

Bob
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Old 11-06-2015, 08:33 PM
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I still have to put the seat, headliner and suspension in my 83SD and that doesn't even require fabrication. Winter's coming I'm told.

I notices ~10 50s era trucks in a body shop near here. The guy may be willing to sell some if anyone is interested.
Does he have a Ford Jailbar (46-47) pickup? I have about 1/2 of one and would like to have the other 1/2! Interested primarily in another Cab (so I can make one big enough to get in!).

Thanks

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Old 11-07-2015, 06:57 AM
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Considering how rare you Studebaker is, I'm glad you decided to make it shiny!!
Thank you!
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Old 11-07-2015, 11:07 AM
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Let me know if you are ever in the deep South or ATL area and we will try to get together.
Will do. It's always fun to catch up with other enthusiasts. In the past I've always been in a hurry to "get there"" and missed opportunities, but the coming trips won't be so hectic.
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Old 11-07-2015, 11:11 AM
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Yes, it is very frustrating when a project gets stalled. In your case, the unique and super cool truck will be well worth the wait.

MB wiring is "different!" Figuring out wiring and switches by methodically testing with an ohm meter is very time consuming.

I checked specs on the Peel & Seal roofing product before using. It has a UL Class “A” Fire Rating which if defined as “effective against severe fire exposure.”

Had not thought much about smoke. So this morning I did the burn test you suggested. Peel and Seal will burn with a propane torch flame directly on the back side, but it is a slow burn and stops as soon as the torch is removed. Takes a few seconds to even get a flame. Not much smoke.

Not so with Dynamat under hood liner (which I used to cut down on the bucket of bolts noise)! Tested it as well. Burns quickly with lots of smoke. Pic below (placed on cardboard for the pic, after they had cooled!)



In comparison, I had the flame on the Peel & Seal much longer than on the Dynamat. Dynamat inside insulation products are much different that their under hood liner, however.

I'm much more concerned about smoke from wiring inside the cab than from the insulation. I had a 3' commercial Chinese wire with alligator clips for a ground when testing a wiper motor. Had a 15 amp fuse on the hot side. The Chinese wire overheated and filled the shop with acrid smoke.
I'm surprised by that result. I expected the house hold stuff to be worse. No need to buy the car rated stuff at all then
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