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Old 01-01-2015, 11:19 AM
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Jump Charger/Compressor Recommendation?

Happy New Year, everyone!

Anyone able to recommend a cordless, rechargeable jump starter/air compressor that works well with diesels? There's quite the variety out there....thought I'd rely on the experience of you guys. Happy to spend a bit more money to get excellent quality. Something like a Stanley J5C09 seems like it might be a good choice which can be had for $80. Or a Schumacher XP2260 for $120....a bit more power.

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Old 01-01-2015, 12:41 PM
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Happy New Year, everyone!

Anyone able to recommend a cordless, rechargeable jump starter/air compressor that works well with diesels? There's quite the variety out there....thought I'd rely on the experience of you guys. Happy to spend a bit more money to get excellent quality. Something like a Stanley J5C09 seems like it might be a good choice which can be had for $80. Or a Schumacher XP2260 for $120....a bit more power.

Thanks.
Who sells these models? Can you actually see the compressor unit inside to try and determine if it's suitably robust to hold up to heavy use, like pumping up a flat tire?
On the subject of compressors, generally I've found the typical, modern 12V-cordless units to be very lightweight and cheaply made in China. The pumps are about 1/2 inch bore powered by large 'toy' motors through a plastic reduction gear. They're barely adequate to top off a low tire. Forget about trying to pump up a flat one. You'll burn out the motor if it's run for more than a few minutes.
I have a three old 12V American-made tire compressors that I keep in my multiple vehicles. Two Colemans and another US brand whose name escapes me for now. Also a new fairly heavy-duty Chinese-made unit I got on sale at Pep-Boys a couple years ago. The motors on these are direct-drive and about the size of a typical auto power-window or wiper motor. Even those have a hard job to pump-up a flat tire and I usually give them a rest after several minutes.
As for a portable, rechargeable jump starter, how often will you need it?
Someone gave me one several years ago and I wound up rarely using it and the battery is probably toast now.

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Old 01-01-2015, 12:59 PM
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The first compressor I had was a cordless Campbell Hausfeld....worked well. When its battery would no longer take a charge, I replaced it with a less expensive version of the same thing that works off the car's power outlet. Works fine....except it's a bit inconvenient to have to have it tethered to a running car.

So my thinking was to get something that restored the flexibility of having a cordless compressor with the added benefit of being able to jump a car. I doubt I'd need to use the jump feature very often....but might be better than waiting for AAA.
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Old 01-01-2015, 09:23 PM
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For the jump-start function, I would recommend you wait for AAA.

Most people who buy booster packs find that unless you use the jumper regularly, by which I mean you drain it completely once a month at least, the battery dies (will not take a full recharge) within 1-2 years.

Beyond that, chances are when you go to use it, you will find it dead and they take at least 3 hrs to recharge (some take overnight). You cannot necessarily throw one in the trunk, then hope to use it two months later at a moment's notice.

You will be further ahead buying a spare battery or keeping an old one on a pushcart, connected onto an automatic 2A trickle charger, in case you need a boost at home.

Most of the small compressors in the $25-$50 range are junk - and anything that is going to fit into the shell of a booster pack will even smaller and less capable. Look at the reviews of small compressors at a variety of merchants' sites and you will see a lot of comments like "worked great... three times."

For the compressor, I suggest you wait for a sale and buy a 5- or 8-gallon compressor and use that for your tires. I made the mistake of buying a cheap "baby" compressor, 2 gals, for $35 on sale and you can make a spaghetti dinner while waiting it to pump up the tank and fill the tire.

If you are stuck on getting a portable battery pack, IMHO Schumacher is the best of an iffy lot.

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Or you could carry some jumper-cables.
I also picked up an older American-made Black&Decker compact portable tankless compressor at the Goodwill-store, which I keep at the house in Virginia Beach, since I park a couple vehicles there that may not get driven for a month or more. But it's 110V. Air-pressure guage is built in and it's heavy enough to pump up a tire in a reasonable time.
Otherwise, Pep-Boys and (I think) Harbor-Freight have one or two relatively heavy-duty 12V Chinese air-pumps in the $35-$60 range. You might find one of those on sale, like the one I bought for my Camry, at around $25.

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Old 01-02-2015, 07:26 AM
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Thanks for the thoughts. Maybe I should just by another portable inflator and call it a day.

The extra battery on the push cart is an interesting idea. $40 blem from Interstate would be a cost effective solution.
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Old 01-02-2015, 10:14 AM
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You might put an appropriate battery in your trunk and wire it to an accessory line or IGN HOT to charge all the time, but not discharge if you leave your headlights on. Probably a power resistor on the hot line to keep it from drawing more than a few amps in any condition. Then just carry jumper cables sufficient to reach the trunk from the engine compartment. Hydrogen venting is a concern with that though.

I find inexpensive compressors don't last these days. You might be better off bodging a compressor from an old fridge. Replace the included oil with probably just motor oil. The refrigerant compatible oil forms acids on contact w/ moisture.

AC Peeps can speak to the feasability and details of such a plan. Thats a 120V solution though.

Above battery scheme, spare and fix-a-flat.
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I almost never have on the road charging issues and a jump will get a 617 running until shut off with a key. I've only changed 2 tires on the road. Both times were due to dry rotted tires on a vehicle just bought.

Battery longevity is an issue and one person I know of who runs his house on batteries claims to get 10 yrs out of all of his batteries because of his maintenance process. Consequently, I'm looking for a charger to keep in the shop that performs an "equalizing" charge.

Here's some battery maintenance info. Battery Maintenance | Trojan Battery Company
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I use this one.

it not only has an air compressor, but a built in 400Amp inverter, and a light.

works great even on my v8Diesel truck!

$99 at wallyworld
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Old 01-02-2015, 09:58 PM
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Managed to pick up a Craftsman 3 HP, 20 gallon compressor off of Craigslist for $70...I guess I'll let AAA worry about jump starts.
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Old 01-02-2015, 10:42 PM
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That one vstech is nice. I got one from Sears as the battery was replaceable. Walmart probably comparable. We use them to run lights at farmers market. It charges off a cigerette lighter in the trunk or behind the seat, so it's always full. Won't drain trough the cig lighter.

For air compressor. I always buy those cheap slime ones. I honestly filled a 6 foot tall tractor tire with it once. Skinny tires. But took a half hour. So hot I could barely touch it. Still works.

I gutted one to fit in my bike. Works great. The cig power part always breaks. Wired in a 12v plug of alligator clips.

Would you let your life depend on one? Meh. Good choice on the craftsman.
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Old 01-03-2015, 08:59 AM
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That's a good deal on that Schumacher...maybe I'll have to get one of those too!
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Old 01-03-2015, 09:01 AM
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A jump battery pack is all about the battery. The scrap yard I deal with sometimes gets "power chairs / wheel chairs", these have 2 half car battery size sealed lead acid units that work just fine.

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