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Old 02-06-2015, 03:14 PM
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Some 2006 CDI E320 Maintenance pics

Got a couple hrs to do my glow plugs and play around under the hood last night of my e320 CDI. I've done glow plugs on a lot of mb and vw diesels. Pretty much all of em. This one is is the easiest one yet. Just a needle nose to pull off the plugs and 10 mm with extension and 1/4 inch ratchet. My only problem was the plastic wire channel is in the way around #4 glowplug so i couldn't get the reamer tool in there.

Anyway, i had #4 glowplug bad and it came out easy. They all did and were all mb beru 5 v. Not sure if they were ever replaced but the number stamp was a little different than on my new ones. I was just gonna replace the one but since i'm gonna run veg i wanted them all fresh. Also i want to see how long a set lasts . Next time one goes out i'll pop in a used one. These are expensive -- 26.95 from the dealer . On the 2006 the bosch 12 V ones don't work.

I drained the power steering fluid reservoir and put in fresh. I thought it was really dirtry but the new bottle I got for this car is a brown color too. It says Dexron 2 on it with an mb number on it. I heard some people put chf11 in theirs. Not sure it matters really what you put in but i've heard the wrong stuff can blow the seals on a W210 rack. This car i'm just putting in the factory recommended stuff. I'd like to know what mineral or chemical causes the seals to damage if you use the wrong one.

I checked fuel filter. It is the original fuel filter. That is pretty awesome -- 150,000 miles almost on a fuel filter. I'm gonna get another MB original there. If it can last that long, i'll pay the extra 10.00.

Everything is so well laid out and easy to get to on this engine. I love the nice flat "tables" they put under there for setting tools and such. There is no way i can sell this car. I'm gonna have to adopt it even if I am in debt for it.

Another cool thing is the dealer actually carries parts for these. Handy in a pinch. Here is a tip -- set up a shop account at your dealer. Once they see you enough just say you have a shop and want a cash account and pay the taxes and such. Give them a business card maybe. Anyone can do it, no paperwork and you'll get wholesale pricing - 20% off everything. it really helps. Pelicanparts gives us all the wholesale pricing too but its nice to have local options too.

Some pics of under the hood showing the nice layout. Notice no engine driven fan -- just one electric one. That is nice touch. Those fans always get in the way doing belt maintenance. The high pressure fuel pump is bolted right on the front. No more delivery valve leaks. I really love this engine.

It looks like I have a leaky egr. Pulling the intake and cleaning and checking that will be next I guess. It looks pretty easy. Is that a big egr cooler -- the flat thing bedind the fuel filter on top of intake pipes with the big rubber hose going into it?

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Old 02-06-2015, 03:36 PM
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I love the glowplugs.
Compared to my other MB diesels, a cave man could change out the ones in the CDI.
Far cry from the 95 E300D I had previously.

I remember moving from the W115 to the W123. The W123 240D was nicer in some ways than the old 220Diesels, but it took a turbo W123 300D to really make me jump from the W115.

I also remember getting our 87 W124 300TD in 1993. I was looking for very clean, low mileage W123 turbo wagon when I stumbled onto our W124 300TD.
What a difference! One test drive was enough to convince me to plump down the additional cash to get the OM603 motor. While I still drove W123 diesels as a daily driver, that W124 wagon was a favorite for many years. Still is my wife's favorite car of all time, though she's been driving a 95 E320 wagon for ten years now. I then moved into several W124 diesels, sampled all the versions and currently drive a 91 2.5 turbo. Based upon the experiences with the W210 chassis that several members of the family had, I eschewed the W210, hewing with the W124. Just didn't see the niceties of the W210 equaling the problems those cars developed.

Then a couple of my cousins got CDIs. Wow! What a difference between those cars and my W124s. Tyler advertised one on the list, and I thought about it for all of ten minutes, then said I'd like to have it.

All I can say is that the CDI is the most remarkable car I've ever owned. And that's saying something, I've owned a lot of cool cars. From a standpoint of daily use, it's at the top. Until you actually own one of these cars for a while, it's impossible to understand just how impressive they are. Nostalgia keeps many people moored to their older diesels, and the simplicity is taken as an unassailable virtue, but if you are armed with the SDS system, the CDI is one heck of lot easier to maintain.

No foolin'.

I own and love simple cars.
I've got a 55 Ford Sunliner and my wife has a 68 MGB, for example.

But technology can be a wonderful thing.....

Jim
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Old 02-06-2015, 06:09 PM
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Purely in jest but what is that wizardry you are showing, no IP madness just madness.
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Old 02-06-2015, 06:47 PM
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I was afraid of the glow plugs getting stuck. Guess I'll get a CDI now
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Old 02-06-2015, 11:19 PM
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Purely in jest but what is that wizardry you are showing, no IP madness just madness.
Maybe that was funny. I didn't get the best of it. The injection pump? Pic? Yes. I get mad excited about common rail injection systems. This is the first time I've had one.
I can't wait to put Wvo blend in it. I've been running b20 for last few tanks. Runs great.

Anyone know a timer who can time it for higher mpg? Does V or A get you better mpg? I tried on my 210 and thine the w (c) mode does.
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Old 02-06-2015, 11:33 PM
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All I can say is that the CDI is the most remarkable car I've ever owned. And that's saying something, I've owned a lot of cool cars. From a standpoint of daily use, it's at the top. Until you actually own one of these cars for a while, it's impossible to understand just how impressive they are. Nostalgia keeps many people moored to their older diesels, and the simplicity is taken as an unassailable virtue, but if you are armed with the SDS system, the CDI is one heck of lot easier to maintain.

No foolin'.

I own and love simple cars.
I've got a 55 Ford Sunliner and my wife has a 68 MGB, for example.

But technology can be a wonderful thing.....

Jim
Yep. They got a lot of things right with this one. From drive train to interior I haven't found much I'd want different. A 5 cylinder and 6 speed manual of course. I like the interior. It's roomy Enough and seems durable. I have mbtex with leather inserts in the front. I had thought the rear was leather for a while.

Where did you get your sds?. Can you flash control units and such? My central gateway went bad and my scanner detected the communication error but it can't flash new processors. It it's a Maxidas.
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Old 02-06-2015, 11:49 PM
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The 05/06 E320, et al I6 CDI engined MBs are the next 240D/300Ds. Not sure why it's taken so long for some to get up to speed with them? Especially here. They're very, very value priced now. Not the $55K they were when I first test-drove a new one 10-years ago.

I'm in the process of buying several of them now.
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:18 AM
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The 05/06 E320, et al I6 CDI engined MBs are the next 240D/300Ds. Not sure why it's taken so long for some to get up to speed with them? Especially here. They're very, very value priced now. Not the $55K they were when I first test-drove a new one 10-years ago.

I'm in the process of buying several of them now.
$$$$$. This is a mercedes forum but not all of us have 10 to 50000 to spend and on cars. But now they are becoming affordable with the 210s just think how big the addicts collections will get. . Im. Getting that 115 in a few months and that will put me at 4.
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I've got a special extractor tool for when they break off. It's a problem when people don't change them or pull them and team the holes every now.amd.then. I'm thinking 100k maintenance.
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$$$$$. This is a mercedes forum but not all of us have 10 to 50000 to spend and on cars. But now they are becoming affordable with the 210s just think how big the addicts collections will get. . Im. Getting that 115 in a few months and that will put me at 4.
Neither are '50000' anymore.......!? Since they're (CDIs) sometimes available as proven through A utoTRADER dot com in the $5K price range. - not sure why that's a issue/problem? The W210s? Even less if shopped right.

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$$$$$. This is a mercedes forum but not all of us have 10 to 50000 to spend and on cars. But now they are becoming affordable with the 210s just think how big the addicts collections will get. . Im. Getting that 115 in a few months and that will put me at 4.
As far as the W210 diesels go, some have been in the bargain basement pricing for years now. Four years ago, my indy thought he could steal my '99 E300TD by offering $4K. Really, I had to laugh at the guy for that - but he was a true bottom-feeder. All his personal MB stuff was sub-standard. I had turned down $13K the year before!
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I was afraid of the glow plugs getting stuck. Guess I'll get a CDI now
Uh, no.......

These are about the easiest of all MBs owned I've ever had to work on !
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I've got a special extractor tool for when they break off. It's a problem when people don't change them or pull them and team the holes every now.amd.then. I'm thinking 100k maintenance.
What reamer tool did you purchase and where?

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Great news here. I am saving my pennies,
And savin my dimes
Before I know there will be a time
That I will be drivin my 05 CDI
CDI, CDI, CDI.
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I love the glowplugs.
Compared to my other MB diesels, a cave man could change out the ones in the CDI.
Far cry from the 95 E300D I had previously.

I remember moving from the W115 to the W123. The W123 240D was nicer in some ways than the old 220Diesels, but it took a turbo W123 300D to really make me jump from the W115.

I also remember getting our 87 W124 300TD in 1993. I was looking for very clean, low mileage W123 turbo wagon when I stumbled onto our W124 300TD.
What a difference! One test drive was enough to convince me to plump down the additional cash to get the OM603 motor. While I still drove W123 diesels as a daily driver, that W124 wagon was a favorite for many years. Still is my wife's favorite car of all time, though she's been driving a 95 E320 wagon for ten years now. I then moved into several W124 diesels, sampled all the versions and currently drive a 91 2.5 turbo. Based upon the experiences with the W210 chassis that several members of the family had, I eschewed the W210, hewing with the W124. Just didn't see the niceties of the W210 equaling the problems those cars developed.

Then a couple of my cousins got CDIs. Wow! What a difference between those cars and my W124s. Tyler advertised one on the list, and I thought about it for all of ten minutes, then said I'd like to have it.

All I can say is that the CDI is the most remarkable car I've ever owned. And that's saying something, I've owned a lot of cool cars. From a standpoint of daily use, it's at the top. Until you actually own one of these cars for a while, it's impossible to understand just how impressive they are. Nostalgia keeps many people moored to their older diesels, and the simplicity is taken as an unassailable virtue, but if you are armed with the SDS system, the CDI is one heck of lot easier to maintain.

No foolin'.

I own and love simple cars.
I've got a 55 Ford Sunliner and my wife has a 68 MGB, for example.

But technology can be a wonderful thing.....

Jim
One additional expense I seem to encounter is retooling when adding or changing a car. I was wondering outside of the DAS reader/ configuration i have no interest in the developer tool do the standard sockets and hand tools still fit or are the thin walled sockets required? Any other special tools needed? I have been wanting one of these cars for a few years now but my 210 and 124 have been fairly good to me and have many years remaining.

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