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Never a debilitating transmission issue as you had, on the W210 I bought new in 16 yrs. now. In fact, none since 1969 in any of 6 MB AT diesels in over 1 Million miles combined service. However, ALL of our MBs were either bought new, or had verification on their service records before buying. Without records, it's impossible to assess a used W210 ' s care and maintenance over the years and miles |
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Great cars actually I spend the least amount of time fiddling with repairs on this car than the 123 and 124 series. My wife uses it but for long highway trips this is my preferred car the best economy around 38 mpg and lots of get up and go power.
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I think I am going to just get it running again and get rid of it. I'm going to have to pull the intake manifold to get to the fuel lines that need replacing, which means its likely to be sitting in my driveway for a month, and that's not really what I was looking for when I bought it. It seems nice otherwise and everything works, so I will post it here for what I paid for it and throw in the $175 or so of maintenance parts I bought for it if anyone is interested.
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Its in the California bay area. Its mostly a nice car, I am just really uncomfortable working on diesels, and I can't afford to have a car that expensive that isn't reliable enough to drive daily, so I'm going to look for something less complicated and with a gas engine. I'm a bit disappointed because I thought I'd be able to keep it for at least a few years, but maybe someone else will have better luck with it.
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Maybe I was not clear, I never had a debilitating moment in the 210, once or twice it stuck in low gear, both times on a city street or in a parking lot and I stopped, shut the engine off, restarted and it shifter fine (except for the flare). I actually could control the flaring by modulating the accelerator pedal but my wife wasn't capable of learning that trick well. So I started reading about the Limp Home mode and at the same time was assessing the 1-2 flaring and finally went to MZF transmissions in Burlingame, CA the premier Mercedes transmission shop in No. CA. I was shown a printout of my OBC and was informed the only thing of any concern with the health of the car was the transmission, its amazing how much info is stored in the onboard computer! I was told a rebuild wasn't something I needed to have fixed ASAP but that someday it would have to be towed when the bloody computer locked it in 2nd gear (or low gear I can't remember). at the time I was planning to drive it cross country so I figured that it was time to have it rebuilt. BTW, I had the automatic fail in my '79 300TD and also in my '75 230.4 the auto trans stuck in low gear, this was definitely something I didn't want to experience again!
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I thought it would be more like the 300sd I had, that needed work too, but was still pretty reliable and only once had a mechanical problem that required it to be parked right away until it was fixed in the 4 years i drove it.Occasionally spending $2-300 and a weekend fixing stuff is one thing, but no, spending every day off repairing stuff or multiple $2k repair bills at a shop is not at all what I want to do.
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I am evolving in wanting to buy another W126 - a '81-'84 300SD as my main car/transportation. That's how good those cars were/are !! (IMO) Last edited by Skid Row Joe; 02-09-2015 at 08:10 PM. |
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The 300sd I had was at about 440k miles (odometer was broken, but it was at least that high) and starting to cost a lot to keep working, but it was pretty reliable and cheaper than a newer car. I think the biggest problem with the w210 for me is that its not that cheap of a car, but its not something that can be your only car. If I have to have 2 cars, they both need to be cheaper lol.
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Quick answer then? Two early '80s era MB diesel cars. A W123 and a W126, or whatever combo - both diesels. Reliable transportation? Yes. Problem solved? Absolutely!
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I have yet to see any reason to believe that the trannies on these cars are particularly problematic....provided they have been faithfully serviced (fluid and filter every 40-60k without fail). Yes, I know their weak spots...but if a conductor plate or an adapter plug has to be replaced every once in a great while, that's fine.
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Service is the key to getting anything to last. For example, my '96 E300D came with a warning that the power steering would stop working (especially at idle/parking lot speeds, when you really need it). I was advised the pump needed replacement. Turned out that, at 250,000 miles, the fluid had never been changed. Apparently none of the factory services include this fluid, other than "check and top up." The fluid in the reservoir was, of course, black with age. I changed the fluid several times and most of the problem went away. The internal pump damage is still there but I can live with it.
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Have patience. Nothing that you have said about the cars problems are all that bad or hard to handle.
Over-thinking the problem, for me, is usually the most time consuming and difficult thing when working on our W210. The battery, last week, dropped down to 12.34 volts and the car wouldn't start. Simple fix, 3 nuts to remove. All of the time spent was searching for the best battery. The fuel lines O-rings leak after many years with the main problem being the fuel changing to ULSD. Changing them is very simple and can be done from below the car without removing the intake manifold its just not as easy as from above the engine. The cross-over pipe is just a few screws and the manifold is a few screws that takes a total time of 30 minuets. The manifold gasket is $12. Filling the fuel tank might solve the problem for now. The cars from the eighties have the same issues with rubber going bad over time and batteries getting weak, they just present in a different way. It is very satisfying and rewarding to see the car run after an issue like this. And it must be done now before you sell it or it will not sell. And diesels are easier and kinder to work on than gassers for most issues. |
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