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Old 03-17-2015, 01:26 PM
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Not putting an HF meter on anything above 12 VDC is a bit extreme. If the HF multi-meter or any non CAT IV meter is prone to explosions due to arc flash, we'd have heard about it on the web already. If you use it for everday use for home or car and follow the manufacturers instructions, you should be fine. Should you use it on 480V and above? Of course not! It is not rated for it

One of the leads fell off as I was sticking the probes in the wall outlet. Hey Mom it didn't explode! Arc flash is only a problem at high voltages (much higher than what the HF meter is rated at AND when you use the meter incorrectly by using the 10A input to measure high voltages. Maybe just for kicks I'll sacrifice and video a test of the HF and see it it arc flashes and explode on 120 V AC.

Jay bob, James Dean, TOPGUN , want to bet $5? If it explodes, I owe each of you $5. If it does not, each of you owe me $5. Paypal only.



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Old 03-17-2015, 01:47 PM
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No one here said anything about arc flash in general or at 120V. I was just saying that was what our training was about and that is what we deal with here at work.
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Old 03-17-2015, 01:58 PM
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No one here said anything about arc flash in general or at 120V. I was just saying that was what our training was about and that is what we deal with here at work.
OK so no bet with you. Jay bob and TOPGUN Vstech?
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Old 03-17-2015, 02:14 PM
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The HF probe ends do not come apart so you cannot re-solder them once they fall off. I am not even sure if they are soldered from the factory since they fall off so easily. The next (free) one I get I will add some hot glue to strain relief it and see if that keeps them from falling off.
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Old 03-17-2015, 02:18 PM
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I think I've had one of my HF meter leads break. I ended up soldering it to a broken Aglient lead and throwing some heatshrink over it. Works well enough for low voltage DC work.

I ended up buying a few of these sets. I liked the interchangeability. Granted it makes it easier to lose the pieces. lol.

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If the probe ends of a multimeter fall off, it seems pretty clear that it isn't a safe device to use at high voltages. This is a helpful thread because it is a good reminder of the built in danger associated with 120V+ electricity. It is easy to get complacent since we all encounter it so frequently.
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OK so no bet with you. Jay bob and TOPGUN Vstech?
Would you like to reverse the bet, and let us put your meter through the various scenarios that are possible on a household 120V line in a laboratory with you in the explosion case with the meter?

Will the meter fail under normal circumstances? Not likely.

Are there ANY safeguards in that free meter to protect you under abnormal circumstances? Nope...
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Old 03-17-2015, 08:07 PM
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Would you like to reverse the bet, and let us put your meter through the various scenarios that are possible on a household 120V line in a laboratory with you in the explosion case with the meter?

Will the meter fail under normal circumstances? Not likely.

Are there ANY safeguards in that free meter to protect you under abnormal circumstances? Nope...
You are making no sense. Why would I want to be in the explosion case with the meter? You seem to know a lot about the HF meter. Tell us more about what safeguards are missing.
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Old 03-18-2015, 12:00 AM
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Ive used several of these meters on:
120VAC
220VAC
180VDC
Various VDC from 90 to 180VDC
Many current tests under an 1 amp
Multitude of resistance checks.

None of these were rocket science ...but.. nor is ANYTHING we have in our MB's.

Use your HF meter (the cheeepie one) correctly and safely and it will give you
great service.
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Old 03-18-2015, 01:16 AM
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My dad a Harbor Freight multimeter wire explode on him when testing 120V AC but that was because he put the probe connector into the wrong port on the multimeter itself. I don't own any nice ones and wish I did but my Radio Shack unit is my favorite though I had a huge spark when working with wiring in my house that melted the tip of one of the probes, there was a short in a circuit that had 120 V going through the earth wire.

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