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Graham 05-10-2015 12:43 PM

When did Mercedesshop.com become Peachparts?
 
Were Join dates carried over? I have had my 300D since 1990 yet site says I only joined here in 2004. Could be correct.

I was on a MB mailing list previously where many dieselheads also belonged (Like Marshall Booth) so maybe I came here after that.

Just wondering.

leathermang 05-10-2015 12:48 PM

I think that Mercedes exercised their US trademark rights and so the name had to be changed....
Start date did carry over for me...
but the posts were reduced for many when a couple of people under past rules.... deleted their posts... which , if they were the first in starting a thread, caused the entire thread to go to internet heaven...
TxBill and Larry Bible were two that did that...... and maybe some others...

Stretch 05-10-2015 01:29 PM

2009

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/249305-important-peachparts-domain-name-change-all-members-read.html

vstech 05-10-2015 01:42 PM

Yup, a ton of members irritated for whatever reason deleted entire threads resulting in thousands of posts and fantastic informative subjects got deleted. Most of those members got banned for their actions, and the rules of the site got stricter resulting in members Being unable to edit their threads after 24 hours.

Afik, the member's start date and post count otherwise was unchanged.

Graham 05-10-2015 01:49 PM

Ok thanks. I guess I must have first joined mercedesshop.com in 2004.

Stretch 05-10-2015 01:51 PM

Actually the domain change happened at a funny time for me. I had been looking at a W123 in January 2009 and had found "this great site" only to not being able to find "that effing site" again by the summer - what was it called again...

charmalu 05-10-2015 02:08 PM

I think the biggest reason for the name change was the sale of parts.

We had Fast Lane and Allpartsexpress as the two places to order parts.
As I understand, this helped to support the Forum.

That and using Mercedes name rubbed them the wrong way.

When it was Mercedesshop.com, it seemed to be a different forum compared to now.

I feel it is totally wrong when someone gets irritated and or banned, to delete all their
Threads and their contribution to the Forum.

Some just fade away and their online name etc... is still there. So if looking for a thread they started and you
remember their name, makes it easier to find the info.

Some delete it and it just says "Guest" where their name was.
There is always Google to search for the info anyway.

How many of you have your "Mercedesshop.com Grill Badges?

Charlie

leathermang 05-10-2015 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stretch (Post 3473723)
Actually the domain change happened at a funny time for me. I had been looking at a W123 in January 2009 and had found "this great site" only to not being able to find "that effing site" again by the summer - what was it called again...

We did our best to leave you in the woods........

ROLLGUY 05-10-2015 08:02 PM

Well I am happy I came along after everything got sorted out. I actually was on BW about the same time, but soon developed a distaste for BW. This site is soooooooooooooooooooo much better in my opinion!

Skid Row Joe 05-10-2015 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vstech (Post 3473717)
Yup, a ton of members irritated for whatever reason deleted entire threads resulting in thousands of posts and fantastic informative subjects got deleted. Most of those members got banned for their actions, and the rules of the site got stricter resulting in members Being unable to edit their threads after 24 hours.

Afik, the member's start date and post count otherwise was unchanged.

I just learned a few things reading this post, vstech! *

Thanks, for the input!

Skid Row Joe 05-10-2015 08:47 PM

? Pelican Parts ?
 
There's a lot of open questions here. Like, why is it still PEACHPARTS, if it's actually Pelican Parts signage at the top of every page?

Also, there's any number of business entities named Mercedes-Benz this or that on the Net. They've never changed their names, yet, Mercedes-Benz Shop did? It doesn't add up, based on many other Internet websites.

Just wondering why all the changes and non-changes?

leathermang 05-10-2015 08:59 PM

Pelican Parts sounded like it was a food processing business.....
and Brown Pelicans are an endangered species.....
so it would have been Non PC......

vstech 05-10-2015 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe (Post 3473814)
I just learned a few things reading this post, vstech! *

Thanks, for the input!

You're welcome! Feel free to report anything needing editing, and I'll get to it for ya!:D

Skid Row Joe 05-10-2015 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vstech (Post 3473851)
You're welcome! Feel free to report anything needing editing, and I'll get to it for ya!:D

Thanks again, vstech! :)

charmalu 05-11-2015 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe (Post 3473816)
There's a lot of open questions here. Like, why is it still PEACHPARTS, if it's actually Pelican Parts signage at the top of every page?

Also, there's any number of business entities named Mercedes-Benz this or that on the Net. They've never changed their names, yet, Mercedes-Benz Shop did? It doesn't add up, based on many other Internet websites.

Just wondering why all the changes and non-changes?


Bill Woods decided to sell the Peachparts Forum, and Wayne Dempsy who owns Pelican Parts which is a Porsch/BMW Forum, bought it. So we are a division of Pelican parts.

Does sound like a food processing company, Pelican Parts, Peach Parts.
Nothing about Auto Parts.

Mercedes Benz now owns the Mercedes Shop Domain name.

Charlie

gatorblue92 05-11-2015 06:14 AM

The thing I don't get is how did some of the other parts suppliers and purveyors of you tube videos get to keep their domain name? I have always thought something was fishy about that since MB didn't go after them for using the "brand name"

It's ancient history at this point so in all honesty it doesn't matter. I would imagine that Pelican really wanted the Peach Parts name when they bought this site which is why it hasn't changed again.

Stretch 05-11-2015 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatorblue92 (Post 3473928)
The thing I don't get is how did some of the other parts suppliers and purveyors of you tube videos get to keep their domain name? I have always thought something was fishy about that since MB didn't go after them for using the "brand name"

It's ancient history at this point so in all honesty it doesn't matter. I would imagine that Pelican really wanted the Peach Parts name when they bought this site which is why it hasn't changed again.

I think every dog will have its day. May be the other URL names have not come up for renewal yet...

cho 05-11-2015 10:11 AM

monkey bussines
 
I guess that I would be in a pile of trouble trying to explain to the girl from my avatar that her name is now protected domain name... :D

...however I like peachparts domain :) name.....

.

ROLLGUY 05-11-2015 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cho (Post 3473954)
I guess that I would be in a pile of trouble trying to explain to the girl from my avatar that her name is now protected domain name... :D

...however I like peachparts domain :) name.....

.

Let me guess, is her first name Mercedes?

llensart 05-11-2015 04:24 PM

Did anyone Post to Okie Benz , I remember getting Emails with Info and advice : What happened to this site ?

leathermang 05-11-2015 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llensart (Post 3474105)
Did anyone Post to Okie Benz , I remember getting Emails with Info and advice : What happened to this site ?

Probably lifted into internet heaven by a Tornado.

Hatterasguy 05-11-2015 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatorblue92 (Post 3473928)
The thing I don't get is how did some of the other parts suppliers and purveyors of you tube videos get to keep their domain name? I have always thought something was fishy about that since MB didn't go after them for using the "brand name"

It's ancient history at this point so in all honesty it doesn't matter. I would imagine that Pelican really wanted the Peach Parts name when they bought this site which is why it hasn't changed again.


If I remember correctly its been 6 years since I read the decision what got Mercedesshop was not the forum, it was the selling of parts under the same name. If Bill had it set up so Mercedesshop was the forum, and for example you clicked on parts and peachparts owned that, they would have been ok.

gatorblue92 05-11-2015 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 3474139)
If I remember correctly its been 6 years since I read the decision what got Mercedesshop was not the forum, it was the selling of parts under the same name. If Bill had it set up so Mercedesshop was the forum, and for example you clicked on parts and peachparts owned that, they would have been ok.

That still begs the question of why Kent can still sell parts under his website and Rusty could as well (he has since retired I believe)

Zacharias 05-11-2015 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatorblue92 (Post 3473928)
The thing I don't get is how did some of the other parts suppliers and purveyors of you tube videos get to keep their domain name? I have always thought something was fishy about that since MB didn't go after them for using the "brand name".

My take on it is that the crackdowns aren't continuous. They come and go.

If you have worked in the corporate world, you can tell by the smell: some mid-level exec hits on it as a nifty make-work and look-good project that impresses the bosses and has minimal downside, as Legal does all the lifting. Something to pad out the next shareholder report, even.

If you are unlucky enough to be caught in one, so be it.

I think "Mercedes Shop" was probably destined to get nailed as it sounded too much, to the uneducated coming to the Internet, like a Mercedes dealer.

When Volvo cracked down, just prior to its acquisition by Ford, it was way way way more brutal. In some cases they went after garages that fixed Volvos and made them white out or misspell the name.

They went after one guy in Montreal who was selling used parts out of his basement. And I mean with serious legal harassment.

Some old timers on the Volvo lists still use the term Ovlov to this day as a nose-thumb to that era.

Zacharias 05-11-2015 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatorblue92 (Post 3474230)
That still begs the question of why Kent can still sell parts under his website and Rusty could as well (he has since retired I believe)

Rusty and Hurst operated as bye embee parts dot com (I cannot type the real URL as it's still blocked here). There is no copyright on the initials MB or MBZ (which is why the once-associated-to-Rusty website mbz.org, which hosted the email lists sponsored by Rusty, exists).

Zacharias 05-11-2015 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llensart (Post 3474105)
Did anyone Post to Okie Benz , I remember getting Emails with Info and advice : What happened to this site ?

The Okiebenz lists were a resurrection of the old lists that had been hosted through mbz.org, which in turn was supported by Rusty Cullens in Atlanta, who ran an online/phone order parts business (Rusty now works for WorldPac).

After some high drama between him and his partner, Hurst, details omitted here, the end result was that the domain name was sold to some large online parts mcvendor.

Ahead of the Cullens-Hurst implosion, there was nasty meltdown between Rusty and the owner of mbz.org and about the same time an employee of the latter who had difficulties went off his meds (literally) and took a baseball bat to the server farm that hosted mbz.org.

Kaleb Striplin, a pal of Rusty's who already had a site called okiebenz.com, resurrected a few of the lists as best he could.

Zacharias 05-12-2015 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llensart (Post 3474105)
Did anyone Post to Okie Benz , I remember getting Emails with Info and advice : What happened to this site ?

Still active, according to its mailing lists home page. IIRC, the challenge was to get the list owner to actually action your subscription request....

Okiebenz.com, Resources for the Mercedes-Benz owner and Enthusiast

Skid Row Joe 05-12-2015 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zacharias (Post 3474311)
The Okiebenz lists were a resurrection of the old lists that had been hosted through mbz.org, which in turn was supported by Rusty Cullens in Atlanta, who ran an online/phone order parts business (Rusty now works for WorldPac).

After some high drama between him and his partner, Hurst, details omitted here, the end result was that the domain name was sold to some large online parts mcvendor.

Ahead of the Cullens-Hurst implosion, there was nasty meltdown between Rusty and the owner of mbz.org and about the same time an employee of the latter who had difficulties went off his meds (literally) and took a baseball bat to the server farm that hosted mbz.org.

Kaleb Striplin, a pal of Rusty's who already had a site called okiebenz.com, resurrected a few of the lists as best he could.

Holy cr% p!

That sounds like the makings of a juicy novel!

Hatterasguy 05-12-2015 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatorblue92 (Post 3474230)
That still begs the question of why Kent can still sell parts under his website and Rusty could as well (he has since retired I believe)

Cause the parts entity was probably under a different name.

Again its been six years since I read the lawsuit but if Bill simply linked from Mercedesshop.com LLC site to say Fastlane.com LLC and that did all the commercial side of it their was nothing MB USA could do.

leathermang 05-12-2015 04:14 PM

I have heard of Rusty , good things, but am trying to remember if he was the one long considered the ' go to guy ' for auto transmission answers ?
Seems like the guy's name was longer than that... perhaps he had been a moderator here for a while.... had a great series of instructions with regard to auto transmissions....and perhaps other stuff.....
anyone remember ?

Zacharias 05-12-2015 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leathermang (Post 3474569)
I have heard of Rusty , good things, but am trying to remember if he was the one long considered the ' go to guy ' for auto transmission answers ?
Seems like the guy's name was longer than that... perhaps he had been a moderator here for a while.... had a great series of instructions with regard to auto transmissions....and perhaps other stuff.....
anyone remember ?

I think you mean Steve Brotherton of Continental Imports. If you google you will find his site still active with lots of info.

No idea if he answers questions.

leathermang 05-12-2015 04:23 PM

Yes, Thank you very much.... that is who I was thinking about ....
One of the reasons I have a manual transmission is all the info on his site....MB auto trans just out of my zone...

TheDon 05-12-2015 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charmalu (Post 3473734)
I think the biggest reason for the name change was the sale of parts.

We had Fast Lane and Allpartsexpress as the two places to order parts.
As I understand, this helped to support the Forum.

That and using Mercedes name rubbed them the wrong way.

When it was Mercedesshop.com, it seemed to be a different forum compared to now.

I feel it is totally wrong when someone gets irritated and or banned, to delete all their
Threads and their contribution to the Forum.

Some just fade away and their online name etc... is still there. So if looking for a thread they started and you
remember their name, makes it easier to find the info.

Some delete it and it just says "Guest" where their name was.
There is always Google to search for the info anyway.

How many of you have your "Mercedesshop.com Grill Badges?

Charlie

I still do and an oil burner Kartel badge that I need to fix the mounts for and put on my CDI

Skid Row Joe 05-13-2015 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zacharias (Post 3474572)
I think you mean Steve Brotherton of Continental Imports. If you google you will find his site still active with lots of info.

No idea if he answers questions.

He's got either a car lot or a repair facility down in Ocala, or Gainesville, FL.

cho 05-14-2015 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROLLGUY (Post 3473980)
Let me guess, is her first name Mercedes?

yes,as a matter of fact that is actual Mercedes (the daughter) by whom
our cars names are given...

.

charmalu 05-14-2015 04:09 PM

That was back Nov 2007 I got my Grill Badge. Dang time flys. :eek:



http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74...edes-Shop6.jpg



Charlie

Zacharias 05-14-2015 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cho (Post 3475369)
yes,as a matter of fact that is actual Mercedes (the daughter) by whom
our cars names are given...

Cho, there used to be a story that Gottlieb used "Mercedes" because the word Daimler has some double-entendre in German that could be taken in a negative way.

Any truth to that, or just urban legend?

charmalu 05-16-2015 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zacharias (Post 3475522)
Cho, there used to be a story that Gottlieb used "Mercedes" because the word Daimler has some double-entendre in German that could be taken in a negative way.

Any truth to that, or just urban legend?

I found this little tid bit of info.


Found this about the Daimler name poking around in Google.

Gottfried Wilhelm Daimler (1834-1900) - German co-inventor of the automobile
Older variations of Daimler include Deumler, Teimbler, and Teumler. Not exactly a name-meaning desired by someone dealing with cars, Daimler is derived from an old southern German word (Täumler) meaning "swindler," from the verb täumeln, to overcharge or cheat. In 1890, he and his partner Wilhelm Maybach founded the Daimler Motoren Gesellschaft (DMG). In 1926 DMG merged with the Karl Benz company to form Daimler-Benz AG. (Also see Karl Benz above). More: German Inventors

Looked up Gottlieb and found this.

Gottlieb (German for "God's Love"; see also Amadeus (disambiguation), Bogomil, Theophil) is a German name that may be used as a surname or as a male given name. The name Gottlieb was created in the 17th century, in German speaking parts of Europe, as a product of the age of Pietism, as a way of naming young men with a religiously charged name

Looked up the name Mercedes and found this.

Means "mercies" (that is, the plural of mercy), from the Spanish title of the Virgin Mary, María de las Mercedes, meaning "Mary of Mercies". It is ultimately from the Latin word merces meaning "wages, reward", which in Vulgar Latin acquired the meaning "favour, pity".


Charlie


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