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Old 07-08-2015, 06:52 AM
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The size of the bolt difference suggests about four times as much stress will be placed on them.

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Old 07-08-2015, 09:17 AM
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The size of the bolt difference suggests about four times as much stress will be placed on them.
Well the unsprung weight of the wheels (including the trailing arms) is quite a bit greater...

...so different captive nuts need to be fitted to the chassis.
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Old 07-08-2015, 11:05 AM
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I will take some more pictures and take some
measurements when I get home from work tonight.

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Old 07-08-2015, 12:30 PM
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go get the subframe... I'm warning you...
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Old 07-08-2015, 05:29 PM
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go get the subframe... I'm warning you...
I think he'll be all right with that - to the best of my recollection of floating about on the Russian EPC before it all went java script enabled (!) the subframe is the same with or with out anti-dive...

...perhaps a quick butchers on the real EPC can confirm this (I'd do it myself but I don't 'ave it gov)
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Old 07-08-2015, 09:16 PM
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Stretch,
The original swaybar is apx 11" from the center of the mount to
the bolt hole. I am coming off the bar at a right angle to measure that.
The anti-squat bar is apx 10 1/4"- 10 1/5" measuring the same way.
Attached is a photo of the mount area.

So, is the subframe for the 500SEL the same as my SD?
I take your warnings seriously, John--what would be the problem if I keep mine?

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forgot the photo.......
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Old 07-08-2015, 10:45 PM
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Mr. Cogburn (Rooster, that is):

In the supplied pic the bar bushing has been reinstalled; when it was removed did you notice another plugged hole? The visible plugged hole and the hidden one should be spaced correctly, and should be of the correct threads for the new bar bracket!!
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Old 07-08-2015, 11:05 PM
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Mr. Reiner,
How right you are!!
Those nuts are a perfect fit!
I thought that rubber plug was a drain hole.
I was wondering how to determine where to place the bracket.
Mercedes foresight & planning (and Frank) to the rescue.
Maybe the anti-squat bar was an option?

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Old 07-09-2015, 01:57 AM
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Stretch,
The original swaybar is apx 11" from the center of the mount to
the bolt hole. I am coming off the bar at a right angle to measure that.
The anti-squat bar is apx 10 1/4"- 10 1/5" measuring the same way.
Attached is a photo of the mount area.

So, is the subframe for the 500SEL the same as my SD?
I take your warnings seriously, John--what would be the problem if I keep mine?

Jeff
Hmm OK 3/4" difference - thanks.

But it also sounds like the mounting points are in a different position.


As for the subframe - this is a EPC related problem - how many part numbers are there for the damn things?! (I think I remember there was only one number)

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