Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 09-24-2015, 10:13 PM
cfh cfh is offline
Charlie
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: DFW, Texas
Posts: 206
I pulled both front and rear windshields from a coupe the method Charmalu described for pulling the back one. The windshields came out as a unit with the seals and the aluminum trim still in place and the seals were in amazingly good shape. If there is a coupe in your local yard I'd say pull both windshields, they're hard to find. Do the back one first - it's easier and you'll get the hang of it. Use flat, blunt tools (like plastic scrapers) to gently pry and lift the rubber - it's not too hard to do if the rubber is still good.

Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 09-24-2015, 11:26 PM
Diesel911's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Long Beach,CA
Posts: 51,244
For the regular W123 some people have used the from My notes: Aftermarket Front windshield seal that someone used Precision replacemnt parts corp. WCR361

I believe it was said they are made in Thialand. There is I think 2 threads on them.
__________________
84 300D, 82 Volvo 244Gl Diesel
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 09-25-2015, 07:27 AM
t walgamuth's Avatar
dieselarchitect
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana
Posts: 38,632
Quote:
Originally Posted by ivandrocco View Post
Thought of silicone, but it looks like grime has been washed under the seal. There's no way i'm going to be able to clean it out under there in order to get a good silicone seal. I think I should check on the condition of the JY windshield and use that glass if it's in better shape with a new seal.
I Take a plastic dinner knife and shape it with a grinder to make a hook. Take the hook and drag out the space you want to caulk. You'll be amazed at what you find there. I have also taken a utility knife and cut off the edge of the seal to form a v to caulk in. This works too. I have had several cars I caulked in this way on the surface. The caulk holds a long time and has the advantage of being out where you can see it if it fails.
__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 09-25-2015, 04:22 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Texafornia
Posts: 5,493
Quote:
Originally Posted by t walgamuth View Post
The black silicone will seal it up pretty well if you clean out the area to be caulked well.

I would think you can take a sedan seal and cut it down on the sides and use it, caulking the joint well with black silicone. I am not experienced with the urethane caulk. It could be better but I have had good luck with the silicone.
anyone know if a sedan windshield can be cut down to be a coupe windshield?
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 09-25-2015, 06:17 PM
i_amnt's Avatar
Travis
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Central Michigan
Posts: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diesel911 View Post
For the regular W123 some people have used the from My notes: Aftermarket Front windshield seal that someone used Precision replacemnt parts corp. WCR361

I believe it was said they are made in Thialand. There is I think 2 threads on them.
Thanks for that tip, I think I'm going to give that a try with some urethane caulked in. Found it offered at two other places for those interested. Their own site lists them for 112 dollars. These two have them for 90 right now.

http://www.***********************/shop_parts/weatherstrip_seal/mercedes_benz/240d.html
http://www.jcwhitney.com/p3039135/sku-6526948.jcwx
__________________
"Blessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light." - Groucho Marx
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 09-25-2015, 07:19 PM
t walgamuth's Avatar
dieselarchitect
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana
Posts: 38,632
Quote:
Originally Posted by panZZer View Post
anyone know if a sedan windshield can be cut down to be a coupe windshield?
see post 9. The coupe glass is 2" shorter.
__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 01-31-2016, 11:43 PM
mb911's Avatar
mercedesbenz911
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 154
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diesel911 View Post
For the regular W123 some people have used the from My notes: Aftermarket Front windshield seal that someone used Precision replacemnt parts corp. WCR361

I believe it was said they are made in Thialand. There is I think 2 threads on them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by i_amnt View Post
Thanks for that tip, I think I'm going to give that a try with some urethane caulked in. Found it offered at two other places for those interested. Their own site lists them for 112 dollars. These two have them for 90 right now.

http://www.***********************/shop_parts/weatherstrip_seal/mercedes_benz/240d.html
http://www.jcwhitney.com/p3039135/sku-6526948.jcwx
This seal appears to be for sedans/wagons according to the manufacturers website. Can anyone confirm? http://www.prp.com/images/Jan2009MoldingGuide.PDF

Any other sources for W123 coupe front windshield seals? Even URO garbage?
__________________
1982 280SL - Petrol Green
1994 E420 - Brilliant Silver
1995 E320 wagon - Smoke Silver
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 02-01-2016, 12:01 AM
RML RML is offline
Out of Garage Space
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Southwest PA
Posts: 1,034
Quote:
Originally Posted by t walgamuth View Post
see post 9. The coupe glass is 2" shorter.
Confirming this post, I remember reading another post stating that the coupe windshield seal is no longer available but the sedan seal can be cut down to fit and mated together. Not sure if the side of top would be best.

Regarding sealants, I tried resealing my windshield with RTV from the auto parts store and it did nothing. Then I read a post talking about the Mercedes non hardening sealant. It is more expensive but it is wonderful stuff and solved my leak problem. You slip the nozzle under the rubber gasket and pump it in with a caulking gun. You need to be careful not to put too much pressure on the nozzle though, as it can crack and then you are SOL with a tube of great sealant but no way to get it under the gasket.
__________________
85 300D 75K Anthracite Grey 0-60 in 13 seconds **For Sale**
84 300D 333K Black (The Velveteen Rabbit) 0-60 in 14 seconds
00 Toyota Sienna 208K (Sold)
15 Subaru Outback 43K
11 Subaru Outback 67K
98 Ford Taurus 100K (Gertie - Was Grandma's - drove it to church and shopping - really) Daughter's car now.
30 Model A Ford 2 Door Sedan (Sold) 0-60 in . . . Never reached 60
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 04-29-2016, 03:16 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: North New Jersey
Posts: 431
in terms of the caulk/sealant - was there ever consensus on what the best stuff to use was? The MBZ brand stuff? I can order that from my dealer perhaps?

I called up the local only glass place that my independent mercedes shop suggested and they said they just don't touch cars like mine, at all unless you are bringing them a new windshield to put in.

my seal has obviously dried over the years and therefore it's pulled away from the glass a bit - but it's not in terrible shape. I used a plastic wedge thing and some compressed air to blast out all the gunk that had settled in there - this was on the advice of an auto glass guy who is friends with my family. I belive it's prepped for the caulk but I'm torn on what exactly to use. I will gladly pay for this mercedes stuff - or is there a similar non mbz product I can find somewhere?

thanks in advance!
__________________
Andrew
Montclair, NJ
--------------
1982 300D Turbo
120k
Petrol Blue Green
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 04-29-2016, 04:31 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Middle TN
Posts: 4,154
There are independent glass people that will/may R&R the glass. Or they will have stuff to seal and know how to apply it. I bought a window for my SD installed for $200. I realize that CD doesn't = SD but just sealing should be less. You want someone that has been working for awhile. The glass people frequent body shops and lower end car lots.
__________________
85SD 240K & stopped counting painted, putting bac together. 84SD 180,000. sold to a neighbor and member here but I forget his handle. The 84 is much improved from when I had it. 85TD beginning to repair to DD status. Lots of stuff to do.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 04-29-2016, 06:42 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Greater Metropolitan Beaverdam VA
Posts: 2,877
As pointed out by others

a new OE windshield gasket or any other OE rubber for W123s is at least 25 years old. Even if on the shelf it will deteriorate. I have replaced both front and rear windshield gaskets with aftermarket URO. They fit well and do not leak. It has been 3 years so far.

I think URO quality statements have attained urban legend status. You will find many complaints on the forums but one never hears from the many more like myself who are satisfied. Lets face it, if you want to keep your W123 on the road, you will just have to make aftermarket decisions. Your only other choice is to junk it, a crime for one of these wonderful time machines.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 04-29-2016, 09:52 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Middle TN
Posts: 4,154
In case anyone is interested, AutoPartsWarehouse and JC Whitney are owned by the same company and parts ship from the same warehouses. Crash parts usually suffice. Branded parts have quality of brands. AC Compressors used to be junk. Fluid containing heat/temp exchangers (ie heater cores/condensers et al are usually acceptable. Most are China Taiwan.
__________________
85SD 240K & stopped counting painted, putting bac together. 84SD 180,000. sold to a neighbor and member here but I forget his handle. The 84 is much improved from when I had it. 85TD beginning to repair to DD status. Lots of stuff to do.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 05-02-2016, 01:44 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: North New Jersey
Posts: 431
3M

this 3m stuff looks like it might be the right type of sealant to use for those attempting to seal in place (non-hardening, etc). anybody know of anything better?

__________________
Andrew
Montclair, NJ
--------------
1982 300D Turbo
120k
Petrol Blue Green
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page